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01.09.2018 9:15:00
Panasonic Full Frame Mirrorless Camera to be Announced on September 25th

https: // www. cnet. com / news / rumored-panasonic-full-fra ... dd-but-plausible /
 

01.09.2018 16:15:00

In order to seriously compete with Sonya, Nikon and Canon, Panasonic should do something much better than theirs.

01.09.2018 16:20:00
Panasonic is not new to the market. Usually his optics are better than competitors and stubs are also good.
Let's have a look.

01.09.2018 19:15:00
They FF had to release a couple of years ago. They woke up.

01.09.2018 22:23:00

They FF were supposed to release a couple of years ago. - they do not owe you anything.


In order to compete seriously with Sony, Nikon and Canon, Panasonic needs to do something much better than theirs.
Apart from the cropland, there is much that is better implemented. It is enough to transfer all this to FF

02.09.2018 0:04:00
Wow news, it's not April 1st.

02.09.2018 15:16:00
All my life they claimed that 4/3 is already Full Frame only small (but proud).

02.09.2018 16:20:00


All my life I have argued that 4/3 - this is the Full Frame

Now, by popular demand users simply carcass under SL obetivy do.

02.09.2018 16:58:00
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All life claimed that 4/3 is already Full Frame only small (but proud).
Then this is the first double ff

02.09.2018 17:05:00

Then this is the first double ff

What about the almost cheap almost compact almost telecentric almost TVs?

02.09.2018 17:35:00
well, IMHO they need to creep indelibly zoom posvetosilney and will come out a good compact, tearing in quality inches.
but this is already there - the LX100 and it did not turn out to be perfect at all, and the upgrade is not very good for the new price

02.09.2018 17:39:00

Well imho they need to make a non-stop zoom smart and will come out a good compact, fighting quality in the inch.

The FF-compact with a zoomed in zoom is more powerful, it's more likely that Ryksovan will fight. By price.

02.09.2018 20:05:00

Panasonic No. 1 will, mikrushny glasses olympusovodam salt, empties the same Panasonic, that SL watering lenses easily and quickly, K and H in general in the span, the Sonomists look despondently at their huge G.

02.09.2018 20:39:00
Yes, there is no point in discarding the panaconics. He is the leader in video quality among home cameras, why should he drain all his work?
https: // www. dpreview. com / reviews / buying-guide-best-cameras-for-video / 2

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well IMHO they need vkryachit interchangeable zoom in and out posvetosilney good CD, fighting for quality inches.

The FF-compact with the zoomed in zoom is more powerful, it's more likely that Ryksovan will fight. By price.
Well LX100 and cut an inch in optics, but somehow very dully it dopilivaet, in fact, only the firmware was updated in the second version. Apparently, the demand for premium compacts is not particularly. The last RX100 V (A) is the same price.

02.09.2018 20:59:00

All life claimed that 4/3 is already Full Frame

devils that, seriously. . Now it's up to the Olympus)
But they will cope with the topic, say that 4/3 was and is, and for video - so in general uber alleys, and FF is purely so. .

03.09.2018 4:33:00

Well, the LX100 and the inch in optics

The LX100 does not apply to the branch topic.

03.09.2018 8:06:00
you can go to the right or left and you will not be hit on the heels, the main thing is that you had a coherent idea.

15.09.2018 9:11:00
Well done, that they set big tasks.

It's just a bit strange that they try to galvanize contrast AF when all the others have already switched to hybrid.

15.09.2018 9:29:00

Their contrast AF seems to be the best on the market:
The Panasonic G9 uses a Contrast Detect AF system and the company " s Depth from Defocus (DFD) technology. DFD has consistently resulted in the best AF performance of any CDAF system we " ve tested. And with the G9, Panasonic " s improved DFD further by increasing the processing speeds used to calculate the subject distance.
https: // www. dpreview. com / reviews / panasonic-lumix-dc-g9 / 6
It's a pity to abandon it, especially if they believe that the potential for improvement is not exhausted.

By the way, did not understand what they write about possible backward compatibility with MFT lenses (via an adapter). Is this possible in principle?


15.09.2018 10:32:00
Yes, their DfD is the best option for contrasting autofocus. But he is also bad in tracking mode and it is unlikely that they will fundamentally correct this.
And with such a tracking it will be difficult to claim a real competition with the above cameras. By the way, did not understand what they write about possible backward compatibility with MFT lenses (via an adapter).

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Is this possible in principle?
Well, apparently a new optics for FF can be put on the mikro. Why not, only the compactness of the microscope with such optics will be completely lost. A microfluid on FF of course there is no sense, there will be a speck in the center with a huge vignette.

15.09.2018 10:35:00

Is this possible in principle?
So just not the whole matrix is ​​used in this case, it's the same as now putting the crumbled glass on the FF of K / N / C. Only worse. The buyer picks up the camera for $ 3,000 and takes it off like a 500 mikra, losing at the same time the compactness of the carcass. Only for the adapter to fit properly with the Panasonic pf it should be a very short working length, because only the spring-loaded group of contacts still take a millimeter of 3, or finalizing the usefulness of the , the compensating lens for the increased working segment should be in the adapter, as in m42 adapters for mirror nicon. But personally, I do not believe in this rumor about installing MFT glasses, it's too ridiculous.

16.09.2018 13:36:00
Deja vu some: about 16 years ago, too, digital mirror was given for 3K +.
A couple of years later, FF was only for 3K +.
The third round, and who this time will play the role of Canon 300D and 5D?

16.09.2018 14:28:00
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Deja vu some: about 16 years ago, too, gave a digital mirror for 3K +.
A couple of years later, FF was only for 3K +.
3K 16 years ago this is more than 2 times the current 3K. Cumulative inflation of 3%.

17.09.2018 6:35:00

All my life I have argued that 4/3 - this is only a small Full Frame

Panas still wants 8K video gash, is they still from time immemorial in the roadmap recorded. And on 4/3 so many pixels are difficult to vpendyurit without losing the quality of the picture. In general, I suspect that there will be a matrix from GH5s, only stretched to FF size (~ 40 Mp). Chet DxOMark still does not test the matrix GH5s. They have recently dropped to the testing of some smartphones, and even those that do not test very actively.
I suspect that the Panas camera will be expensive, huge and heavy, with a powerful cooling system (6K / 8K shoot - not fucking dog), and because of this it will be interesting to more pro-videographers, not amateur photographers like me. For me, it seems, it will be more urgent in FF to either stay on Sonya or go to Nikon.

17.09.2018 11:10:00
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Is this possible in principle?
So just not the whole matrix is ​​used in this case, it's the same as now putting the crumbled glass on the ff at K / N / C. Only worse. The buyer picks up the camera for $ 3,000 and takes it off like a 500 mikra, losing at the same time the compactness of the carcass. Only for the adapter to fit properly with the Panasonic pf it should be a very short working length, because only a spring-loaded group of contacts all the same in millimeters 3 will take, well, or definitively finishing the usefulness of the lens compensating the increased working segment should be in the adapter, as in m42 adapters for mirror nicon. But personally, I do not believe in this rumor about installing MFT glasses, it's too ridiculous.
is certainly ridiculous. That is, if you want someone to simultaneously use FF glass and m43 glass, he must go to the FF carcass for 3 kilobox to buy another micro carcass for 1. 5-1 kilobox and weighing 350-450 grams. After a carcass for 500 bucks will not have such a high-quality viewfinder / screen / krutilok as FF for 3 kilobax.
The ability to install m43 glass on the FF is an OPTION, not an obligation. By the way, many mirkushnye glass cover much more than a 4/3 sensor. Do not cover FF, but you can sprinkle a square or any shape without losing the image, and with a FF lens on the FF camera you can not.
As these cameras do not have a specular viewfinder, the EVI can automatically adjust and scrape as much as necessary.

The main drawback of this adapter is that I see - to make it possible to choose the parameters of the lens mount, which will make it impossible to install windows on FF M43

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buyer takes a camera for 3000 dollars and removes both micro for 500, losing at the same time also in the compactness of the carcass.
Well, according to this logic, you can say that Nikon D500 can not shoot static subjects - because the pictures will be the same as with a small Sony A5100, the meaning of steep AF is lost. As soon as our subject has stopped, remove the Nikon D500, we get a small Sonya with non-autofocus optics. And then vice versa.

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So it's just not the whole matrix used in this case, it's just like now putting the crumbled glass on the ff at K / N / C.
KN also has another problem, if we put the crashed glass: the viewfinder's magnification is so small, it's about 0, 7, and with the crochet it will be even smaller - to crop the problem. Yes, their DfD is the best option for contrasting autofocus. But he is also bad in tracking mode and it is unlikely that they will fundamentally correct this.
DFD is by no means an option for contrasting autofocus. Unless there are no special sensors, there is nothing in common.
 

17.09.2018 12:42:00
if someone wants to simultaneously use FF glass and m43 glass
Having a carcase want to use 43 glasses can only be out of complete despair

17.09.2018 13:02:00
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DFD is by no means an option for contrasting autofocus.
http: // eng. faq. panasonic. com / app / answers / detail / a_id ... logy% 3F --- dmc-gh4

Contrast AF with DFD (Depth from Defocus) technology

17.09.2018 13:49:00

Do not cover FF, but you can sprinkle a square or any shape without losing the image, and with FF lens on the FF camera you can not.
- where is the logic? well, in the editor

, KN also has another problem if we put a windowed glass: the viewfinder's magnification is so small, it's about 0, 7, and with the crochet it will be even less - to crop the problem. - use the main screen, as you do on the BR

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20.09.2018 21:49:00
Well, it means that on ff there will be something at once and with Panasonic's native optics at the start overtakes the CN:

Vario-Elmarit-SL 1: 2. 8-4.
APO-Vario-Elmarit-SL 1: 2. 8-4 / 90-280
Super-Vario-Elmar-SL 1: 3. 5-4. 5 / 16-35 ASPH.

Summilux-SL 1: 1. 4/50 ASPH.
APO-Summicron-SL 1: 2/75 ASPH.
APO-Summicron-SL 1: 2/90 ASPH.
APO-Summicron-SL 1: 2/35 ASPH.
APO-Summicron-SL 1: 2/50 ASPH.

But the question is, of course, how much of the above will be compatible.

24-90 f / 2. 8-4 certainly interesting " whale " , already portrait fr climbed.

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