Replacement Samsung NX1

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11.08.2018 15:21:00
I have a NX1 with a whale lens of 16-55mm and a light zoom of 16-50mm 2-2. 8. I plan to purchase a light zoom 50-150mm 2. 8 and a light macro lens.
And the question is whether it makes sense to invest in " dead " system or better to switch to another.
Since the release of NX1 almost 4 years ago, I would like to have the best device for the same money. All that I listed cost me a new 3 years ago at 1500 euros. The above listed 2 lenses will cost up to 1500 euros. Even in distant plans, the body for underwater shooting ikelite.
For me, both the photo and the video are important.

What I would not want to lose on the transition:
- multi-pixel BSI sensor
- 4K video recording from the whole sensor 6. 5K - & gt; 4K
- 4K continuous recording with a bit rate of 150-200 Mb / s hevc
- Ingress both carcass and
lenses -
metal housing - a rotary touch display (very comfortable)
- a rate of 15 / s
- autofocus, the focus servo , focus peeking
- flash
- microphone and headphone input
- convenient connection with the phone in which the program automatically connects to the camera.
- size and weight, can significantly exceed

What I would like to see after 4 years of progress:
- better quality photos / video
- more opportunities in low light
- 4K 60 fps to, I would like to HDR
- better stabilization
- more display
- same price

GH5 and A7 III have caught on from the many views of the devices.
The GH5 has 4K 60 fps, but because of the smaller sensor the clarity of the video is worse, it seems there is no moisture protection, the sensor is not BSI, there is no flash. GH5 + similar to the EGF zoom lens will cost about 3000 euros +/-. That is, practically for the same thing you need to overpay in 2 times plus the lenses specified for acquisition will cost another 1500 euros. And that needs about 4,500 euros.
A7 iii better in low light, but no 4K 60 fps, no rotary display, no flash. A7 iii + 24-70mm 2. 8 will cost about 5000 euros. Additional lenses are still 3500 euros and 8500 euros. Sony constantly read about overheating in 4K, I also did not overheat the NX1 even at +50 in the desert.
What's more, there are underwater cases for these cameras.
I looked at the a6500, there were no advantages at all, some disadvantages.
Fujifilm X-H1 general misunderstanding. 4K writes 15 minutes and at 1. 7 krope, headphone jack in the accumulator extender.

What happens, where is the progress, for which all these producers want money?
 

11.08.2018 15:41:00
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Looked at the a6500, there generally no advantages, some disadvantages.

And the users went to

11.08.2018 15:58:00

What's better?
- 4K writes 100MB / s in the old codec
- sensor is BSI
- flash weaker
- battery lives on less
- ingress protection no
- body is not metal in older models
- rate below
- entrance headphone no

Where is progress?

11.08.2018 16:07:00
kmk nothing better for sane money you will not find, continue to develop this system, since some lenses to it, if desired / skill, can be found for pennies.

11.08.2018 17:03:00

There is nothing better for sane money, continue to develop this system, because some lenses to it, if desired / skill, can be found for pennies.
Well, I'm about to this and bow. Somehow everything is sad. I do not mind overpaying, but I do not see why I overpay. It would seem for 4 years should be polutorakrop much better than NX1, but not even the same. And it seems to me that it is not due to marketing considerations, that would not compete with other products.
For the a6500, I do not see similar native light zoom, only compatible with FF for an incomprehensible price.

11.08.2018 18:30:00

The clamped BZK weighing 550 grams is an epic fail. Sony has a more recent matrix, more powerful than AF, a longer series (at times), there is a stabilizer built into the camera, an Exmor matrix, there are more options with video.
And most importantly - the entire Sony E system is alive and actively developing, while Samsung in the photo - died. And your camera will soon become a pumpkin.
Compatible from FF
They are not compatible, but they are also native.

11.08.2018 19:19:00
Can I contact Samsung can they have what prototype of the next camera that they decided not to sell and they will be pity and give it to the author? Well, nothing pleases a person after Samsun.

11.08.2018 19:29:00
to be honest, there is progress. the actual progress is that it is already possible at the very least, but actually shoot and get a good result of the shooting.

for photos have already reached a situation where further improvement in the quality and consumer properties of the device is generally imperceptible on the output and convenience of shooting. for example, the nearest full-frame speaker, Nikon promotes a large diameter of the bayonet. not the quality of the photo, the length of the series there, ... but the diameter of the bayonet. diameter, Karl! there is simply nowhere else to improve in the photo compared to the same Sony for example.

in the video there is a field for progress.
- now it would be good to have 60k / c 4k with a full frame in combination with a high bit output of 10+ bits.
- tomorrow it can be 120k / c 8k
, etc.

but we are realistic - this is the range of parameters for expensive cameras. there will soon not be allowed fotiki. neither in six months, nor in a year.
so relax and just take it off for fun

11.08.2018 19:38:00

11.08.2018 20:31:00
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Epic fail is less than 100gr difference with this plastic housing, lack of weather protection and top display.
Where does the information about all this? Sony is just protected and the body is not plastic:
https: // www. switchbacktravel. com / weather-sealed-mirr ... less-cameras-list
upper display to the word is absolutely not needed.
It's budget and can be 3 times fresh
No, it's not budget. This is your Samsung budget.
Is that alright? More tsiferok on the site saw and decided that it is more powerful?
And what, you saw the digits of the MP and decided that the ancient matrix of Samsung is better than Sony's matrix. To the number of AF points you do not use the same logic for some reason.
This is again only in older models, and not in the trimmed for all parameters a6500.
Is the record missing? Until recently, the top AF on Sony PCs was in the A6500.
I do not see new models and light light zoom.
And you wipe your eyes.
Then with such a small body and without a comfortable grip with heavy FF glasses, one more epic fail.
Is this you on the pictures on the Internet reasoning?
then your a6500 will be a double pumpkin and by this time will release the updated glasses.
Sony will release and Samsung will not

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Can contact Samsung can they have what prototype of the next camera they decided not to sell and they will be pity and give it to the author? Well, nothing pleases a person after Samsun.
And what about the warranty? Sonya has a two-year-old for everything.

11.08.2018 20:51:00
the possibilities of video shooting for today at current fotikov and video cameras - it's just a toothache.

in NX1, an attempt was made to make a good video camera at that time. it did not work out - the video looked like flowers and the general appearance was simply disgusting. and the problem is not in the rhetoric of the YouTube testers but in the technical plane - in Samsung's desperate attempt to create a matrix in sensitivity catching up and overclocking the sony matrices (Samsung's matrices stably lagged by half a half (by one and a half times)) and even ultra-megapixel and high-speed readout . These bloopers planted another sensitivity half a stupa. So Samsung was forced to dilute the color filters on the matrix too much to raise the sensitivity to a whole stop, to the sensitivity level of the Sony dies. so that its matrix certainly knows how to designate a color. But the color can only be accurately transmitted if the lighting spectrum is a calibrated reference. in real light conditions, unpredictable colors are perceived visually unnatural. a camera for sci-fi movies. and then wait for comments " such aliens do not happen " .

but in general the attempt to make the camera technically advanced was honestly done by the samsung. and even today the camera by parameters and some user facilities looks even good.

The A6500 - in general, her classmate by features, the plus-minus parameters are the same. can less critical comments on the colors of the output video. but not an ideal. in comparison with the A7R2, in my opinion, it loses to its color rendition. the A7R2 video color rendering is presented to me prettier in general and higher resistance to changing the spectral composition of lighting.

one of the problems of the current generation of 8-bit cameras is in their 8bit. it's very close to the jeep. it is difficult to fix anything in postprocessing. well, and the greed of the manufacturer - in the pursuit of sensitivity dilute the color filters not only all and about the crushed color rumination are silent.

So far, among the 8-bit cameras somehow have to carefully select your favorite with good color rendering and keep it.
for example, it's not a fact that A7-3 at class parameters, in reality we will not spoil the color rendition in comparison with A7R2. etc.

11.08.2018 21:24:00

Where does the information about all this? Sony is just protected and the body is not plastic:
https: // www. switchbacktravel. com / weather-sealed-mirr ... less-cameras-list
upper display to the word is absolutely not needed.

The body is made of alloy, it was mistaken. There it was just condensed for heavy glass. But there is still no weather protection.

No, it's not budget. This is your Samsung budget.
Go to dxo, the Sony sensor has 2 points more than the Samsung 85 vs 83, all results are within the error. Is that what you call a new sensor?

You do not use the same logic for the number of AF points for some reason. What is the logic? There AF at least is not worse, and AF points are more advanced.

Is the record in place? Until recently, the top AF on Sony PCs was in the A6500.
Not seized, the new camera, progress 0.

And you wipe your eyes. Have you already rubbed it? Give me the link.

Is this you on the pictures on the Internet reasoning? No, I was holding it in my hands.

Sony will release and Samsung will not release
Well, with such prices for light zoom let it release. Only the owners of the system will have ancient glass, and I will be able to switch to a new system with all the buns without a dead weight.


So Samsung was forced to dilute the color filters on the matrix too much to raise the sensitivity to the whole stop, to the level of sensitivity of the dormouse matrix. so that its matrix certainly knows how to designate a color. But the color can only be accurately transmitted if the lighting spectrum is a calibrated reference. in real light conditions, unpredictable colors are perceived visually unnatural. a camera for sci-fi movies. and then wait for comments " such aliens do not happen " .
Sony's colors are unnatural and the feeling that they are artificially bullying them. I do not claim that Samsung is the standard, but I like colors from the box more.

one of the problems of the current generation of 8-bit cameras is in their 8bit. it's very close to the jeep. it is difficult to fix anything in postprocessing. well, and the greed of the manufacturer - in the pursuit of sensitivity dilute the color filters not only all and about the crushed color rumination are silent.
Here GH5 looks better. A6500 - in general, her classmate in terms of the possibilities, the plus-minus parameters are the same.

That's the problem, the time has passed zero, and on those points that I do not want to lose the minus. And from what I would like to see is also zero.


11.08.2018 22:39:00

Yes, see reference
Page not found
All reviews say there is no.

www. sony. ru
I was there, I did not see a bright zoom zoom, give a direct link. You kept it, and I take it off regularly. Do you see the difference?

I can see that you are a fan. And about the convenience of the a6500 is not only my opinion. An eccentric person, if I wish, I too can go  but glasses of the Zeiss type 55/1. 8 or Sony 85/1. 8 will not be obsolete soon enough.
Just to knock on the keys? I do not need these glasses, I wrote in the first post that I need.

In short, with such requests and a complete lack of bubble it's easier to sit on Samsung until it physically breaks. In general, a normal line of behavior.
Bubble you do not have times you do not sit on the A9, but on an amateur low-end device and shoot regularly. I shoot irregularly and I do not like to overpay for air. I bought a Samsung, took pictures and then for a few years I just lay, because I was not interested. Now I started using it, I spent another 1k euro for a stab and a separate microphone. And this is one of the hobbies, I do not sleep with the camera in an embrace and it does not bring me any money. I'll get tired, I'll take photos on my S9 + farther, because he's always with him.
By the way, I'm considering A7, but I do not know what to pay for. What I want, I will not get from this camera, in spite of another class and 4 years of difference. From A9 by the way, too, do not get it. More and less corresponds to GH5 and suddenly it costs less than FF from Sony. So where does the money come from?

11.08.2018 22:45:00
Only the owners of the system will have ancient glass, and I can switch to a new system with all the buns without dead weight.
What does the author even write about?



1)

And where to prosrat money I already know.
2)
Bubble you do not have times you are not sitting on the A9, but on an amateur budget entry-level device and regularly shoot.
And let's you understand the road you're still walking along the path 1) or the path 2)

11.08.2018 22:53:00
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All reviews say there is no.
Lieutenant
I was there, a light crop of zoom not seen
What does not fit the light FF zoom? ?
I can see that you are a fan.
And I see that you are not a very smart person.
And about the convenience of the a6500 is not just my opinion.
Are there two of you there? the whole family 6000-6300-6500 is perfectly sold and people use any lenses with them.
- better stabilization
Given that Samsung in the chamber it is not at
Buble you have no time you sit not on the A9, and an amateur budget entry-level machine
ridiculous. Dude, if you measure loot on cameras, then you're really stupid. A6500 is not at all an initial camera. In any case, my photoset is 10 times as expensive as yours

11.08.2018 23:22:00

What does not fit the light FF zoom? ?
Perhaps the fact that they also do not. Something like 18-55 / 2. 8 on the A6500 there is not a croak or FF.

11.08.2018 23:28:00

And let's you take care of the road you're still on the path 1) or the path 2)
I see no reason to overpay for the photo opportunities and not have the progress in the video, which is unclear? What do not fit the light FF zoom? ?
And are you clever after that? Above I wrote than, what's the point of repeating? And above, you're the clever one said that there are bright, scaled-up zoom. I see that you are not a very smart person.
Goggles for the

Are there two of you there?  the entire family of 6000-6300-6500 is well sold and people use any lenses with them.
There is an Internet in which people do not spare the money spent and do not splatter fanatic saliva in their responses.

Given that Samsung in the chamber it is not at
I saw a video with this Stabia, thank you, but this is a plus, I can not write.

It's funny. Dude, if you measure loot on cameras, then you're really stupid. A6500 is not at all an initial camera. In any case, my photoset is 10 times as expensive as yours
So you measure it, I just said that it's just one of the attributes of consumer goods everyday life as a teapot. My coffee machine is more expensive than your camera, because I use it every day several times a day. You started:
In short, with such requests and a complete lack of bubble it's easier to sit on the Samsung,
At the same time I wrote:
From the numerous views of the devices of different GH5 and A7 III.
And nowhere was there a word about the budget and notice your a6500 there is not, because it does not block even my current Samsung, not to mention the progress. I just said that I do not see what to pay for, because I have a priority not only in the photo.


Probably because there are none. Something like 18-55 / 2. 8 on the A6500 there is not a croak or FF.
Unfortunately this is like my 16-50 zoom 2-2. 8 there, too, no.


11.08.2018 23:52:00
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Something like 18-55 / 2. 8 on the A6500 there is not a croak or FF. Strictly speaking, there is, through the adapter.

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My coffee machine is more expensive than your camera, because I use it every day several times a day.
Coffee machine for 120 pieces?
I just said that I do not see what to pay for, because I have a priority not only in the photo.
Well, then, sit on the Samsung while it's alive, what's the problem? it seems to me, a normal option.
Unfortunately this is like my 16-50 zoom 2-2. 8 there, too, no.
https: // sony-club. com / threads / kratkij-obzor-sony-16-5 ... 8-4-os-hsm. 32155 /

12.08.2018 0:20:00

Coffee machine for 120 pieces?
Well, yes.

Well, just sit on the Samsung while it's alive, what's the problem? it seems to me, a normal option.
So that's why I created the theme, it can be more goal-oriented to change and I do not see something.

https: // sony-club. com / threads / kratkij-obzor-sony-16-5 ... 8-4-os-hsm. 32155 /
And where there is 2-2. 8? Plus, he's not native. For NX there is also samyang, welmax. I can mount any optics through an adapter. Through the speedbooster even canon with a motor focus, the crochet is 1. 07.

12.08.2018 0:22:00
And where there is 2-2. 8?
Has Sams f / 2 up to what focal length?
Plus he's not native.
You're not quite right. 16-50 with the 3rd adapter is practically native, with the speedboster does not compare. Although in general, yes, there is no direct analogue for the scratched Sony E. But to be honest, I do not see the sense in the zoom with 2. 8 for a compact camera. With current ISO workers, there is enough f / 4 for almost everything. For the rest, there are many motor fixes.
can be more faithful to change and I do not see something.
This is just a camera. I like nothing against Samsung do not have. You like it - and fine, take it off and do not worry.

12.08.2018 0:51:00

You're not quite right. 16-50 with the 3rd adapter is practically native, with the speedboster does not compare.
Well, I'm not arguing that support is better than via speedbooster. But through SB plus one stop to aperture.

Although in general yes, there is no direct analogue for the scratched Sony E. But to be honest, I do not see the sense in the zoom with 2. 8 for a compact camera. With current ISO workers, there is enough f / 4 for almost everything. For the rest, there are many motor fixes.
That's why I indicated that I would like more low light, because 2. 0 sometimes is not enough, and I do not have enough lightfixes. There are situations that light is bad or twilight and a zoom is needed. So there is a native 1. 8 fix, for samyang under the NX series of fixes with 1. 4.
In general, this question has been tormenting me for a couple of weeks. On the one hand, the system seems to be dead, on the other hand, when it finally becomes obsolete, the money spent for me will not play any role. When buying TV, no one suffers that he can not take a panel for a new iron, and TV is more expensive than an automatic machine coffee and NX1 with all the lenses I plan to purchase. Hence the requirements for video. 62ESS32876D024F778F92F2B18BCBE893
Samson f / 2 before which focal length?
With 16mm, higher in my already 2. 2. goes, etc. For night scenery is very good.

This is just a camera. I like nothing against Samsung do not have. You like it - and fine, take it off and do not worry.
I'm not talking about that, but about expediency. .

12.08.2018 1:07:00
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But through SB plus one stop to aperture.
There are no miracles.
on the other hand, when it finally becomes obsolete, the money spent for me will not play any role. [/ b] Well, do not worry.
For night scenery very well.
Sony will have a stabilizer + 3 stops, which easily cuts f / 2 from Samsung by 16 mm.
I'm not talking about that, but about expediency. . Yes, this is also true. In this case, it all comes down to your desire to spend X thousand rubles on a new toy. I photographed on FF + 16-35 / 2 for many years. 8 and I do not want to carry such weight any more. The quality of the top-hatched BZK type A6500 is more than satisfactory for me.

12.08.2018 2:16:00
If to question
Who can compare with my Matilda,
The sparkling sparks of the black eyes
answer - " no one " - well so it is necessary to remain with Matilda
and not complain that the market for several years did not offer a newer Matilda

12.08.2018 7:09:00

That's why I indicated that I would like more low light, because 2. 0 sometimes is not enough, and I do not feel like flapping fixtures.
so they are easier to


For many years I was shooting on FF + 16-35 / 2. 8 and I do not want to carry such weight any more. The quality of the top-hatched BZK type A6500 is more than satisfactory for me.
and what is the equivalent of 18-35?


if the awl was in one place, then you need to change the system. sony or fudge.


12.08.2018 8:54:00
a6500 ambiguous transition, gh5 on video will be much better and nx1, and sony, for 4K sounded it is perfectly adapted. Optics are easy, the choice is great. The version without stub is much easier.
 

12.08.2018 8:59:00
Since I already talked about the mikre (Panasonic), I would advise you to test Olympus E-M1 M2. There, and the zoom is high-fidelity, there and stab embedded fucking. Autofocus is better in order than GH5.
Rent for a couple of days and make your own conclusions.

12.08.2018 9:02:00
one micro zoom is more powerful than another miracle? about compatibility is not in the subject?

12.08.2018 9:31:00

a6500 ambiguous transition, gh5 on video will be much better and nx1 and sony,
Oh, these theorists. You would at the same time enlightened that the follower of AF at Panasonic, as it was not so and not in the video and in the photo. . Even against the background of a sonny with an Olympus. At the Samsung there, too, everything was bad, but not to report such a trifle as it would not hurt.

12.08.2018 9:33:00
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in one mic the zoom is faster than the other micros? about compatibility is not in the subject?
Learn to read.

12.08.2018 10:14:00
I remember your bloopers with a financial year and with a misunderstanding that there is a photo and that there is a video:
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Possible Not 26:
Moderate stills according to modern standards

The video resolution does not comply with modern standards. "

now here with a wide aperture zoom lens from Olympus than the above-mentioned your soobschneniya, Panasonic

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AF Tracking
from Panasonic for video tasks it completely missing photo at a good level, p3st and Hybrid.

the author did not mention anything about the tracking af, but since you started, the only really good tracking af from Nikon.

12.08.2018 10:21:00
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Oh, these theorists. You would at the same time enlightened that the follower of AF at Panasonic, as it was not so and not in the video and in the photo. . Even against the background of a sonny with an Olympus. At the Samsung there, too, everything was bad, but not to report such a trifle as it would not hurt.
GH5 generally an amazing camera.

https: // youtu. be / hxydwoEGlnY

12.08.2018 10:22:00
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If so much time nx1 was enough, then most likely enough for a month or two, until Nikon and canon will not roll out their novelties and you can make a more conscious choice

12.08.2018 11:04:00
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I remember your mistakes of the financial year and the lack of understanding that there are photos and videos that have

now here with a wide aperture zoom lens from Olympus than the above-mentioned your soobschneniya, Panasonic.
1. For me, very useful information on the beginning of the fiscal year in Japan. I can not live without it. Apparently you, too. 2. Learn to read, I repeat.

12.08.2018 11:05:00

Sony will have a stabilizer + 3 stops, which easily intercepts f / 2 from Samsung at 16 mm.
I usually use a tripod at night, but the argument is good if everything is so good.

In this case, it all boils down to your desire to spend X thousand rubles on a new toy. I photographed on FF + 16-35 / 2 for many years. 8 and I do not want to carry such weight any more. The quality of the top-hatched BZK type A6500 is more than satisfactory for me.
Well, the difference in weight between the carcasses is not so great, but on the crook you have to drag the FF zoom and have to carry them at least 2 that would cover my current.


so they are easier to
So a lot of them need the whole opperativnost lost.

If the sewing was in the same place, then you need to change the system. sony or fudge.
Sila is not, just an interesting look from the side.


I would advise potestit Olympus E-M1 M2
there because of the small sensor at ISO 800 starts loss of quality.

GH5 general amazing camera.

https: // youtu. be / hxydwoEGlnY

In the video firmware 2. 0, say in 2. 3 the autofocus is fixed.


You would at the same time have enlightened that the watching AF at Panasonic has not been as it was not both in the video and in the photo. . Even against the background of a sonny with an Olympus. At the Samsung there, too, everything was bad, but not to report such a trifle as it would not hurt.
But this is very bad, I often use it and the tracking focus is very good on the Samsung and keeps the focus on the object stably.


the author of the tracking AF did not mention anything, but since you started, the only really good tracking af from Nikon.
I did not even think that somewhere it might not be in modern cameras.


if so much time nx1 enough, then most likely last for another month or two, while Nikon and Canon do not roll out their new products and you can make more informed choices
I actually do not burn, it will introduce Nikon is also interesting, can Sony update its crop and deliver at least HDR in 4K. Canon recently released his half-throck, but not impressive at all.

12.08.2018 11:15:00
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Looked at the a6500, there generally no advantages, some disadvantages.

And the users went
That is, like this " went " ? !!
I always see some disadvantages in Sony!

12.08.2018 11:26:00

So much is needed and all the operativity is lost.
Efficiency in shooting night scenery?

No stub,
oh what? if not, and you do not need to change anything - take it off for fun.


About the mic
her photo is weaker, do not.


that Nikon will also be interested in.
nikon will be ff. but the video from Nikon is an eternal ambush.


12.08.2018 11:39:00
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1. For me, very useful information on the beginning of the financial year in Japan. I can not live without it.
in the world, learn to read

2. Learn to read, I repeat.
that's it.
stills - photo, not video.


12.08.2018 11:44:00

Efficiency in shooting night scenery?
No, it happens that people take pictures or somewhere in the field, where there is no time to stage or re-train the lenses. And on a trip it is easier to take 1-2 zoom, than a stack of fixes.

the nickname will be ff. but the video from Nikon is an eternal ambush.
Sadness.

In GH5 in my matrix stabilization was disabled.

12.08.2018 11:50:00

Yes, and on a trip it's easier to take 1-2 zoom than a stack of fixes.

and 2-3 fixes are even easier to take.

12.08.2018 11:57:00
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Sadness.
in the wake of sadness. in bzk and compacts all ok.
better to wait and see yourself / read the recognized experts.
in September, Canon will also roll his fk out, too, will compare

12.08.2018 11:58:00
A6500 + 24-70 2. 8
https: // m. youtube. com / watch? v = jwpRfa7aLIY
The zoom is just huge.


in the wake of sadness. in bzk and compacts all ok.
better to wait and see yourself / read the recognized experts.
in September Canon's own file will also be rolled out, there will be something to compare

Something after the size of the FF zoom, look at FF perehotelos. 1. 5 kopp is some kind of a golden mean.


12.08.2018 12:04:00


I would advise potestit Olympus E-M1 M2
there because of the small sensor at ISO 800 starts loss of quality.

GH5 in general is an amazing camera.

https: // youtu. be / hxydwoEGlnY

In the video firmware 2. 0, say in 2. 3 the autofocus is fixed. [/ q]

If you live in Moscow, it is better to potestit, and not ask at the forum.

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1. For me, very useful information on the beginning of the financial year in Japan. I can not live without it.
in the world, learn to read
https: // yandex. com / turbo? text = https% 3A% 2F% 2Fru. wikipe ... bo & amp; fallback = 1

I hope you will master.

12.08.2018 12:26:00

If you live in Moscow, it is better to potestit, and not ask at the forum.
Not in Moscow, but I can pottech during any month any technique. But it still disappears because it does not remove 4K. And why not the E- M1 Mark II? He seems to be the flagship. By the way they have a very interesting mode 40mp.

12.08.2018 12:44:00

And the question is whether it makes sense to invest in " dead " system or better to switch to another.

You can spend 1K Euro on a new 50-150mm 2. 8 telephones, with delivery (in Korea they still sell), and this is enough. The lens will breathe a little life into creativity: amateur photos on these focal, in comparison with the standard range, usually get more interesting. And when you get bored, lower the price and change the kit to a smartphone with the coolest " five-chamber " module and two terabytes of memory on board, and breathe a sigh of relief

12.08.2018 12:45:00
: The zoom is just great.
This is the full-frame top zoom. Only I do not understand why you need it. I go everywhere from 16-70 / 4, and now there are 18-135.

12.08.2018 12:46:00
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If you live in Moscow, it's better to potestit, and not ask at the forum.
Not in Moscow, but I can pottech during any month any technique. But it still disappears because it does not remove 4K. And why not the E- M1 Mark II? He seems to be the flagship. By the way they have a very interesting mode 40mp.
I wrote about him, just in Russian. CD2 / M2 = mark II.
There is 4 to.
But the picture in the photo should be viewed.

12.08.2018 12:46:00

The zoom is just huge.
First, it is from another camera, and secondly, yes, this one of the first attempts is not entirely successful. there is compact 24-70 / 4, 16-35 / 4, 12-24 / 4


in September your Canon FF sk roll out, too, would be to compare
with what?


12.08.2018 13:10:00

First, it is from another camera, and secondly, yes, this one of the first attempts is not entirely successful. there is a compact 24-70 / 4, 16-35 / 4, 12-24 / 4
It was said above that they are relatives. The above objectives are dark compared with the Samsung lenses.
In fact, the a6500 is still the only interesting 1. 5 BZK krop. But the lack of native light zoom and weather protection make the system uninteresting. I took pictures on the NX1 in the rain, in the river, in the sea, on the beach. Especially on the beach, even with a careful handling of the camera in the sand.
https: // youtu. be / HzFGoGYxvM8


I wrote about it, just in Russian. 
M2 = mark II.
There is 4 cells.

I for some reason E-M5 M2 read

 

12.08.2018 13:13:00

Here it was said that they are relatives. The above objectives are dark compared with the Samsung lenses.
no, they're on full frame


in the river, the sea,
straight myryal?

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