Nikon D80, it makes sense to take right now

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01.01.2015 16:36:00
Decided to take DSLRs Nikon (was once fascinated and have a good supply of manual lenses Nikon, metering will not work I know), I want to take something budget and there was a question or D3300 (bribes absence. Low-pass filter and 60 fps video) or have to take poss (friend sells, carefully polzoval etc.) D80, what will happen to the whale 3 times cheaper D3300, but I do not mean to be a video live twist, etc., but still be a screwdriver and poss. buy zanedorogo AF lenses, but how good will the photo, because there CCD, to what I understand it's not very far "screwdriver" lenses slower ones with the motor?
 

01.01.2015 16:56:00
D80 - take (mileage look at the last Rabbi, where the counter is written)
excellent (from today) color camera
IMHO

01.01.2015 17:02:00
You are not kidding about the colors, the same old type of matrix and like loud?

01.01.2015 17:22:00
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You are not kidding about the colors, the same old type of matrix and like loud?
you Negroes shoot in the dark?
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excellent (from today)
been rightly said. There matrix type that was used back in the very doroguschih camera profiles. Old is not old but just different. If the light is sufficient the result will be great.

01.01.2015 17:24:00

Negroes not (I hope), but about the noise in the reviews written yet seen on the forums, etc. not very good precision autofocus her and how important question "screwdriver" lenses in their motor slower brothers, much will be slower fokusrovka?

01.01.2015 17:47:00
If a loved one and not to bomb a wedding then I would take the presence of old lenses course D80 If you need to remove the cats, dogs, children, tarakanchikov then perhaps better to take modern cameras with modern lenses so even with swivel screen so as not to be constantly flexed removing kids or micro dogs. Better the difference in money to the outbreak potratitili still some accessory. In the summer of filter which polyarik (very much like him to shoot)

And, of course noisy if on the machine to remove the feast that was not very good.


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01.01.2015 17:58:00

For myself, a lot of manual optics (sorry measurement will not be like like D300 stopped working at manualki) swivel display just does not want to like it as for me it's better fixed for reliability. Noise write over ISO 200 noise much poєtomu need an external flash (in the course that will advise by Nikon from the budget), such as it is more convenient for grabbing (looked reviews D3300 generally kakayato miniature), probably will be missed greatly layfvyu.


Photographed Sigma? Witch One? Photos quite!


01.01.2015 18:10:00
I have a D70s yn 568ex nikon flash works very well, but you need one amendment to power. On the D80 should also work fine. I have it on for 5 ebey 5rub took Now I do not know how much it costs.
At the expense of noise, well, possibly higher than 400 will make more noise but the noise is there a little nicer than the more modern the other matrix. If you are afraid of noise and need a LV is best to take modern cameras. And all the time you will be sorry that you can not shoot where flash is not desirable and high ISO is not. On my 5D2 and D70S LV is not needed. True, I do not use manual'naya lenses. Therefore, looking at the screen if it is necessary to evaluate the histogram or BB rude.

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Photographed Sigma? Witch One? Photos quite!

If you want to "FSE ressko" in good light then of course she steers, though BB in it I do not like. But they have their drawbacks heap.

01.01.2015 18:16:00

Thank you for the answer.

01.01.2015 18:16:00
D80 c CCD is more artistic than "FSE ressko" camera

01.01.2015 18:38:00

read reviews on photorecombination, praise but everywhere the noise noise noise in general poizuchat yet. Thank you for your help!

01.01.2015 18:44:00
Up Super Mega CCD! ! ! take take take!

01.01.2015 18:50:00
This
you joking? Or you seriously?

01.01.2015 19:14:00
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That you joking? Or you seriously?

He's serious, he's a fan of the CCD
 

01.01.2015 19:27:00

Thank you for your answers, I'll think.

01.01.2015 19:31:00

as "screwdriver" lenses in their motor slower brothers, much will be slower fokusrovka?
What do you mean? All the way around! Some Screwdriver much faster, at times!
Take a look at 24/2. 8 In AF-S that speed is not.
Problems with AF at the D80 did not notice, but of course slower than the D700, at the level of other classmates.

The color matrix old D80 is very good, clean saturated color, show no shame http: // www. mywed. ru / photo / 2189688 But the matrix is ​​indeed very noisy, ISO 400 I do not use it for that severely restricts the scope: the shortage of light not to shoot and \\ or have to follow the exposure. For if enough light - color super still rented at D80 (with D700)

cut filter, as for me, is not a criterion for purchase, it is important only in very specific cases.

But I would not oriented with when buying on old screwdriver fast lenses, new good too: 35mm, 50mm, and are not expensive.
And because of the limitations on ISS (noise) would think twice when buying, and home video does not hurt.

01.01.2015 19:37:00
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Photographed Sigma? Witch One? Photos quite!
Sigma DP2 Merrill, you sorry that I've been to this topic vtemyashit , so just a holiday mood fits )) If it is interesting shots with the Sigma, see here.

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camera is not for all, but if you want better quality landscape or general plan polnorazmere, not compromise, it will give that does not get any D800 nor Mark, nor at Hasselblad. Travel camera, as saying. Of course portraits and animals and flowers, and so on. too great, but you need to have a direct hand . .


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Happy New Year!

01.01.2015 19:39:00

fact you voiced arguments to which I came, but I orient on a budget, so apparently did D3300 (60 fps want), during the question is not just a theme, I understand that D3300 will be the usual manual optics (under the same Kiev-19, Kaleynary etc.) will not be measuring will not (well clear AF), but skipping rope diaphragm will work?

01.01.2015 19:41:00
Give greenhouses SSD CMOS see at least from what all cheese boron.
color? Color now in the editors on the idea what you want, you can cheat, Hosh under Sigma Hosh under CMOS. SSc is unclear.

01.01.2015 20:19:00

Few ask greenhouses enough, he do so SSD and CMOS can not be distinguished. Pure color is when the channels are not podmesheny other colors to do so in CMOS, we must try: rent flat, add contrast, color separation (clarity or whatever editors) clearly fit bb, and this is not always enough, sometimes it would be desirable to open lab, and in SSc it ("color purity") is already there, with a margin. It's about editing ravov, much different.

02.01.2015 9:16:00
Good camera was for its time. I had at one time. Color on the same Sonya's 10 megapixel matrix but Sony A100 was much more wonderful! And if you seriously, it is not the case in some noise. . Very weak by today's standards the dynamic range of those old matrices. Any modern SLR (and not only) entry level-universal will.
course itself carcass super! d3300 not standing next to the convenience grip. . .

02.01.2015 11:08:00
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Very weak by today's standards the dynamic range of those old matrices.
I like that is not particularly noted the weakness of DD on the ancient d70s. Shadows stretched very well why the amendment made to the fact that nebylo overbrights and all you need to intermeddle. Just had to sit showing mandrel but on the other hand modern faded frames also need to twist in the editor.

Baby and I

02.01.2015 12:24:00
D80 - an excellent choice, but about the high ISO will have to forget.

02.01.2015 13:39:00

I like that is not particularly noted the weakness of DD on the ancient d70s.
if the monitor exposure / overexposure, the shadows in your own software then drawn out with a bang, especially in 6 megapixel ccd matrix - quite a bit of noise. 10 MP D80 / D200 there still will poshumnee. but the main color is really very good. good on both, which does not replace a wide DD. for the soul of photography for a photo - the most it.

02.01.2015 21:16:00
I thank all the respondents, helped define.

02.01.2015 21:19:00
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if the monitor exposure / overexposure, the shadows in your own software then drawn out with a bang, especially in 6 megapixel ccd matrix - quite a bit of noise. 10 MP D80 / D200 there still will poshumnee.
All the other way around - with 10Mp D80 / D200 shadows stretch better than older 6Mp (D50 / D70).

03.01.2015 8:31:00
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Very weak by today's standards the dynamic range of those old matrices.
I like that is not particularly noted the weakness of DD on the ancient d70s. Shadows stretched very well why the amendment made to the fact that nebylo overbrights and all you need to intermeddle. Just had to sit showing mandrel but on the other hand modern faded frames also need to twist in the editor.

child and I

Well, the sun and any modern soap dish not blundered. . . It would be ridiculous if such conditions the camera failed. . . But if the sun is not behind him, and the sea with glare while shooting something like portretiki. . ))
course any camera can be forced into a corner. . .
 

03.01.2015 10:58:00
Funny is not funny but I'm sure that some modern cameras and white clothes would be obtained instead of stamped and shadows (especially under the bonnet with tanned skin) black holes, the sun is very bright Crete. Saw a bunch of examples. That would still need to properly prepare the mandrel.
And if the sun is not behind and the sea with many highlights duck and modern nonsense out.
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