Choice of Fota needs (specific model and generally zrkalo-nezerkalo)

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02.02.2013 14:04:00
Welcome ask for help in choosing a camera, the problem oddly in a large number of options. But at the same time, all in some way flawed ... (

Original:
with Photos sign a long time: it was:
Film: Sharp, change, lomo compact, Zenith, Olympus......

Now: in the role of the notebook constantly with him: Casio EX-1080 mainly for work well and life is happening just photographing ... meets all over: a simple, small, bright enough, the battery lasts for a long time, a little short zoom and still focus speed ( Now I plan to upgrade it to a casio zr300)

But with the second (for the soul) of photographic harder.
to shoot children, holidays, celebrations, landscapes, architecture choose ph I can not. (
Year 4 use Panasonic DMC-FZ38 bought somehow accidentally went choose SLR and just looking at the technical specs (multipurpose zoom, stabilizer, relatively compact, manual controls, RAW, cheap) took it. Popervosti somehow it was still bearable, but over time the quality of the photo just infuriates ... soap, col. noise.

Selection: budget. . somewhere probably to 35rubley. . viewed:

Canon EOS 650D - very familiar pro recommends - for him canon as a religion and the gain on the equipment he pollimona I just will not. . + Stopped the size and the mirror - I doubt even in its necessity. . maybe wrong. .
Sony NEX-6 - like characteristics but sony generally cautious attitude.
Panasonic G5 - like anything. . but somehow pornoslonik already annoying. .
Other options .... ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

PS - plus lens selection is added here. . . all brains boil. . )))
 

02.02.2013 14:12:00
I'm with the same choice of (was still canon g12 / 15 I think) stopped at neks6. I do not regret at all!

02.02.2013 14:55:00
Comparison of AF when shooting video Sony A57 (left) and Canan 650D (right). Pay attention to the amendments that the test Sony LEFT! ! ! (In the frame of video for Sony erroneously indicated on the right). In Canon AF sensor installed on the main matrix. What came out of it, can be clearly seen here http: // www. youtube. com / watch? v = IpdnFtM44rs . Especially significant at 1: 30. Note also that there is a whale on the Sony, and Canon specially sharpened under the video Canon EF 40mm f / 2. 8 STM

Top 10 inexpensive lenses for the Sony Alpha system http: // www. alphatraveller. org / archives / 15 (~ 1000rub 250UAH)

Choosing between Sony SLT-A57 and Canon EOS 650D (aka Rebel T4i,). Choosing between Sony SLT-A57 and Canon EOS 650D (aka Rebel T4i, aka Kiss X6i).

Sony SLT-A37 - SLR with video for beginners
Conclusions: http: // www. 3dnews. ru / digital / 633527 / index3. htm


02.02.2013 15:09:00
not nex-6, and the nex-5RK + sel-50F18 OSS
(in Neh-6 there is no touch screen, which is useful for specifying object AF and tracking AF in different modes of photos and video)

02.02.2013 15:31:00
Comparison of the size of the constructor. Especially compared with the camera kit lens (it should move the slider to the left to zoom) http: // camerasize. com / compact / # 369. 88, 382. 92, 163. 97, ... 3. 335, 326. 51, ha, t
You can choose any quant. cameras (left window) and compare them in any turn (to the right of the window shows the projection), and can still tie him to the lenses (only in the projection from the top) and then compare

02.02.2013 16:06:00
Thank you. . . uh. . how useful disk imaging. . .
. . realized that the first thing you need to choose it is certainly not as much as it is a bunch of carcass with the lens. . . even before it is easier. . ))

02.02.2013 16:28:00
I would choose the Sony A37 ($ 600 with 18-55mm Kit, with 2 800dol object 18-55 + 55-210mm) or Sony A57 (with 800dol 18-55) only for 2 reasons (compared with Canan, Nikon with the same carcass price): 1) stabilization in the matrix (there Sonya except bezzerkalok, all Olympus and Pentax), which allows you to buy more cheaper without stub (sometimes 2 times cheaper than its competitors) lenses. 2) poluprozraznoe mirror Sonia (do not rise when focusing on the matrix and passed 70% of the light) allows you to shoot video with adequate autofocus. A loss of 30% of light through a mirror for the fan barely noticeable overlaps and others. Advantages. For advanced amateurs also important good intrachamber dzhipeg. Just here are the camera and chose http: // camerasize. com / compact / # 369. 88, 382. 92, 163. 97, ... 3. 335, 326. 51, ha, t . I advise you to also look at the Olympus E-PL5, PM2 (Screen not turning unlike PL5), that the quality is not worse than the photo Olympus E-M5 (1st place in the Poll for 2012), but much cheaper because of the functional. 1. Best Camera http: // www. dpreview. com / news / 2013/01/01 / best-camera-of-2012-results
2. OVERVIEW Olympus-OM-DE-M5 http: // www. onfoto. ru / review / Olympus-OM-D-E-M5 / 1526. html

http: // www. onfoto. ru / review / Sony-Alpha-NEX-6/2106. html
Noise and Noise Reduction (JPEG) Sony NEX-6 (noise matrix) http: // www. dpreview. com / previews / sony-alpha-nex-6/7

http: // www. onfoto. ru / review / Sony-NEX-5R / 1945. html

http: // www. onfoto. ru / review / Sony-Alpha-NEX-5N / 1253. html

http: // www. onfoto. ru / review / Canon-650D / 1782. html

forgot to note that bezzerkalki Olympus E-PL5, PM2, Olympus E-M5 on the speed and accuracy of autofocus SLR are similar and clearly faster autofocus Sony NEX 5n, NEX-5r, NEX-6


02.02.2013 16:36:00
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Compare autofocus when shooting video Sony A57 (left) and Canan 650D (right). . .

. . . uncertain but no autofocus photographing since the video is running. . . if I am mistaken Canon - very "in.. about" judging by the video. .

02.02.2013 16:41:00
My recommendations do not reject the Sony NEX 5n (I have this), NEX-5r, NEX-6. In etih NEX-s compared to Olympus E-PL5, PM2, Olympus E-M5 advantages when shooting video (50 frames / sec instead of 25-30k / sec). But to significantly change the stub in the carcass and the speed of autofocus. Sony NEX 5n I bought the spring of 2012 for a whale 800dol 18-55 when the Olympus E-PL5, PM2, Sony A37, NEX-5r, NEX-6 has not even announced, and the Sony A57 kit cost 1000dol 18-55.

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Compare autofocus when shooting video Sony A57 (left) and Canan 650D (right). . .
. . . uncertain but no autofocus photographing since the video is running. . . if I am mistaken Canon - very "in.. about" judging by the video. .
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When shooting video autofocus contrast or hybrid usually (canon 650 in the mirror is raised, in prev models 500, 550 actually autofocus in video no). In a series of Sony PoluPZerk with focus in the video do not know what (PTT does not rise), but clearly faster and more accurately than in canon 650

02.02.2013 16:58:00
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. . . . 50 frames / sec instead of 25-30k / sec). But to significantly change the stub in the carcass and the speed of autofocus. . . .

. . . 50kadrov agree much better look at any peresmeschenii in the frame. . . but about the stub in the chamber have always believed that the optical stub is much better than any shift matrix. . . tembolee do not think that I would be constantly re-buy, change lenses. . . and you just need to buy 1-2 with Stabia and take. . .

02.02.2013 16:59:00
Sony Alpha NEX-6L Kit not morochte his head
PS and then will decide whether you need different lenses.

http: // www. dpreview. com / previews / sony-alpha-nex-6

02.02.2013 17:05:00
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. . . . 50 frames / sec instead of 25-30k / sec). But to significantly change the stub in the carcass and the speed of autofocus. . . .
. . . 50kadrov agree much better look at any peresmeschenii in the frame. . . but about the stub in the chamber have always believed that the optical stub is much better than any shift matrix. . . tembolee do not think that I would be constantly re-buy, change lenses. . . and you just need to buy 1-2 with Stabia and take. . .

http: // www. onfoto. ru / review / OIS-Nik-Tam-Pentax / 800. html test stabilizers - Nikkor, Tamron, Pentax on the results of this test, there is no evidence that one type of stabilization - to shift the lens in the lens or on the shift matrix - effectively another.

Some conclusions after test mirrorless cameras http: // podakuni. livejournal. com / 658142. html
-Excellent test photo professional photographer with photo models show that the photographer is more important tehnichsekih performance cameras. I UTB to the fact that you can take and Canan 650 if your friend would he borrowed his lenses. A video can be manual focus and shoot

Note that the second chamber to the left (Olympus E-PM2)
http: // camerasize. com / compact / # 369. 88, 163. 97, 382. 92, ... 3. 335, 326. 51, ha, t
I clocked travel-zoom 14-150m (eq promises more effective 28-300mm) that no stub. It costs about 300-400dol. Series A37, A57 18-200 (28-300) without stub is also not expensive. But the size of the camera with him will be 2 times more. But for NEX travel-zoom 18-210 (eff28-300mm) with at least 800-1000dol Stabia.


02.02.2013 17:38:00
4/3 system would not consider seriously. Since you already have a soap dish. Why do you need two? For
equal to 4/3 the depth of field sprinkled with polutronym, use the aperture to stop wider. And this is serious. (On sel-35F18, sel-50F18 is available F / 1. 8 4/3 to kill her nothing). And in
-average sensitivity matrix 4/3 feet almost worse than the polutorakropnoy. That is to compensate for the poorer sensitivity in low light to stop light objects needed.

Rumor has it that a new series of Nexia (nex-5r) received phase namatrichny autofocus and in terms of speed and accuracy of autofocus is already acceptable.

02.02.2013 17:42:00
My friend has a NEX 5n (like me) + adapter (LA-EA2- 300dol on ebey), which turns into NEX SLR. Speed ​​focus like a series of A37, A57,. . . But also has a similar size. On New Year bought shares for Olympus E-M5 with 16-50mm for 1000dol (standard price 1500dol). Impressed by the speed, accuracy and the ability to autofocus. select the small size of the focus area. I photographed the lens at 300mm (600mm eq) birds. http: // album. foto. ru / photos / 111568 /

02.02.2013 17:42:00
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Note that the second chamber to the left (Olympus E-PM2)
http: // camerasize. com / compact / # 369. 88, 163. 97, 382. 92, ... 3. 335, 326. 51, ha, t
I clocked travel-zoom 14-150m (eq promises more effective 28-300mm) that no stub. It costs about 300-400dol. Series A37, A57 18-200 (28-300) without stub is also not expensive. But the size of the camera with him will be 2 times more. But for NEX travel-zoom 18-210 (eff28-300mm) with at least 800-1000dol Stabia.

. . . kakraz think about the choice of the zoom to the original universal version (or a whale carcass + Glass) has come to the end of the toe that the body needs at least 135mm at kropnutyh version. . . again the small size of the camera is not so important due to the size of the Lenses. . .

02.02.2013 17:49:00
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System 4/3 would not consider seriously. Since you already have a soap dish. Why do you need two?

And in-average sensitivity matrix 4/3 feet almost worse than the polutorakropnoy. That is to compensate for the poorer sensitivity in low light to stop light objects needed.

Rumor has it that a new series of Nexia (nex-5r) received phase namatrichny autofocus and in terms of speed and accuracy of autofocus is already acceptable.

About loser by the noise of 4.3 to 1. 5 can be sprinkled already forgotten. See here and compare Noise and Noise Reduction (JPEG) Sony NEX-6 (noise matrix) http: // www. dpreview. com / previews / sony-alpha-nex-6/7
http: // www. dpreview. com / previews / sony-alpha-nex-6/11

The fact that the speed of autofocus (nex-5r, 6) is clearly inferior to the new cameras, Olympus e-m5, E-PM2, E-PL5 I wrote

02.02.2013 17:55:00
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System 4/3 would not consider seriously. Since you already have a soap dish. Why do you need two? For
equal to 4/3 the depth of field sprinkled with polutronym, use the aperture to stop wider. And this is serious. (On sel-35F18, sel-50F18 is available F / 1. 8 4/3 to kill her nothing). . . . .

. . . Well if 3 \\ 4 dropped. . What remains 650D? ? ?

three days studying the issue for themselves brought its downsides:
1. leisurely crawling back and forth AF (great big minus)
2. 30fps 1080
3. size body + glass
4. conservatism of Canona as a producer.
5. "amateur" body of the 650 model (for reviews and after felt: Sony-Panas this price somehow looks even professionalney- worked chtoli materials better..)

please add the or popravte. . .

02.02.2013 17:55:00
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. . . kakraz think about the choice of the zoom to the original universal version (or a whale carcass + Glass) has come to the end of the toe that the body needs at least 135mm at kropnutyh version. . . again the small size of the camera is not so important due to the size of the Lenses. . .

size camera height is still important. For example, in my purse A37, A57 do not intermeddle, and bezzerkalki with any lens fit. Since the lens goes along purses, Kotra has an internal length of 22cm and a width of up to 10 cm large

02.02.2013 18:02:00
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About loser by the noise of 4.3 to 1. 5 can be sprinkled already forgotten. See here and compare Noise and Noise Reduction (JPEG) Sony NEX-6 (noise matrix) http: // www. dpreview. com / previews / sony-alpha-nex-6/7
http: // www. dpreview. com / previews / sony-alpha-nex-6/11

The fact that the speed of autofocus (nex-5r, 6) is clearly inferior to the new cameras, Olympus e-m5, E-PM2, E-PL5 I wrote

. . . Thank you very useful resource study. .
. . . inclined in the light of what he heard probably to nex6. . .

02.02.2013 18:10:00

Come on! It's time!

02.02.2013 18:20:00
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From bezzerkalok or system NEX 5r, 6 or Olympus PM2, E-PL5. Noise and quality of internal dzhipega same. NEX 6 more significantly 5r. For UTB get built-in flash, the EMI connector to connect an external device. But lose against 5r touch Screen, which I personally important as the eyepiece annoying (and the pros vice versa). In Olika built stub and clearly faster autofocus, but the video 30k / 50k with the proto / s, which for me is irrelevant. All are equal on rented at 25k / sec to mp4 for eknomii places on the map and ease of processing MP4. You should know that on NEX at ISO 3200 even with 25k / sec (50k and probably even faster), the camera may turn off after a few minutes, 10 minutes, until cool matrix. Better 25k / sec to remove all Olika than pieces on HEX. In Olika about overheating the matrix I have not heard about a little fly

video on Sony NEX
Everything about Sony NEX, e-mount, camera (including Hasselblad Lunar), lenses and adapters (Part 5), # 892
test time video to the overheating of the matrix
Terms: The screen is folded (for better heat dissipation from the back of the camera), the ambient temperature: 23C, memory card Sony MS PRO HG-Duo 16, the camera position: fixed lens SEL16F28, original new battery (2 discharge cycle)

NEX -5R 29: 50 (limitation on the duration of the recording) + 5: 05 (the second file, overheating), total: 34: 55 to overheating; power consumption: 33%

NEX-5N 29: 50 + 2: 05, total 31: 55, the battery consumption: 29%
So remove the presentation more than 30 minutes on the Sony NEX 5n fail. Is that some spices put special. Rear fan for cooling the matrix. True to promises more effective they are at the back of the housing plastmasku removed, which covers the matrix


02.02.2013 20:15:00
M43 have only decent machine - Olympus EM5. a number of technical characteristics superior to Nex-5n (AF speed, the degree of stabilization in the video).

BUT: it is relatively Neksa - huge and heaviest so uncomfortable. if you take such a device, then there is a normal reflex. and better FF SLR D600, 6D.

02.02.2013 20:28:00
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in M43 only decent machine - Olympus EM5. a number of technical characteristics superior to Nex-5n (AF speed, the degree of stabilization in the video).

BUT: it is relatively Neksa - huge and heaviest so uncomfortable. if you take such a device, then there is a normal reflex. and better FF SLR D600, 6D.
I already wrote that the Olympus E-PL5, PM2 (Screen not turning unlike PL5) and the Olympus E-M5 noise and the UK. AF should be the same! ! ! Just off the Olympus E-M5 wider functional stabilizer is better, there is moisture protection EMI

speed focus http: // www. youtube. com / watch? v = b-WLvEvqMZE & amp; feature = player_embedded
http: // www. onfoto. ru / review / Olympus-OM-D-E-M5 / 1656. html

In focus -The PEN range has a reputation for fast contrast detect AF and the E-PL5 maintains it. It "s difficult to say if it" s any faster than its predecessor - both focus within an instant of half-pressing the shutter release, even when the lighting conditions are less than optimal. http: // www. cameralabs. com / reviews / Olympus_PEN_E-PL5 / index. shtml
noise and detail can be seen here http: // www. imaging-resource. com / IMCOMP / COMPS01. HTM

Another review - http: // www. imaging-resource. com / PRODS / olympus-epl5 / olympus-epl5A. HTM


02.02.2013 23:27:00
. . . importation now wife to the mall, ushurshal from her Potikha in photoshop - NEX-6 touch. . .
. . . . apparatik liked. . and compact and functional. . . I will now and discuss all about NEXe study. . .
BUT! opyatdvadtsatpyat- seller pedstavivshis photographer with 15 years experience has called sony and "other 3/4" - "toys pioneers" - (xs that meant) for about 15 minutes telling that in addition to canon pentax and serious art is still no. . . convince not convinced. . but a portion of doubt threw
. . . the basic idea was this - the main purpose of the device - it gra fi fo ro va Th! . . . video - no more than a bonus. . .
. . . his words focusing speed in the photo at nex5-6 slower than the 60D, and even than 650D. . .

02.02.2013 23:39:00
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. . . his words focusing speed in the photo at nex5-6 slower than the 60D, and even than 650D. . .
So about assuring you wrote here. With DSLRs ck. Focus is comparable only last Olika and Panasov-bezzerkalok. A beautiful can shoot any camera from bezzerkalok.

Now would be of comparable price bezzekalok vzyad to Olympus EPL5 instead Sony 5R.
Image quality almost indistinguishable, at prices ext. lenses are comparable, and the speed of focus at times more. Sonya better design, video (while the matrix is ​​not pregreetsya) and va-fi (I do not need).
noise and detail can be seen here that hildren camera equivalent http: // www. imaging-resource. com / IMCOMP / COMPS01. HTM

03.02.2013 0:08:00
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. . . So here about assuring you wrote. With DSLRs ck. Focus is comparable only last Olika and Panasov-bezzerkalok. A beautiful can shoot any camera from bezzerkalok.
sorry. . . read noticed. . First somehow passed by. . . eatsiklilsya on video. . .

. . now find the longest shot of photographic video - 28 minutes
. . napyagaet another vacation (Egypt, Ezra) and was 40-45 degrees in the shade. . NEX at least 10 minutes in this heat will master ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

Threat
. . . Fitch found which has never deaf - PlayMemories Mobile Smart Remote Control for NEX by sony -neznayu how upotrebimo in practice but pomoymu extends the camera quite. . . especially if you are temporarily on the other side Lenses. . .
 

03.02.2013 1:08:00

Olympus EM5. . . relatively Neksa - huge and heaviest so uncomfortable.

http: // camerasize. com / compare / # 375, 289

"unsupportable" Olik by as much as 55 grams heavier Nexia!

if we take such a device, then there is a normal reflex. and better FF SLR D600, 6D.

yes, "the same thing":
http: // camerasize. com / compare / # 378, 289
http: // camerasize. com / compare / # 380, 289

03.02.2013 2:15:00
From here
Everything about Sony NEX, e-mount, camera (including Hasselblad Lunar), lenses and adapters (Part 5)
Judic
And finally figured out why the camera down quickly overheat when shooting video - 50fps! At 25 much longer holds.
not - it seemed. Today was shooting tournament on mini-football and first exhibited 25fps (ISO 400-800, f / 3. 5-4), but still the camera down after 8-10 minutes overheated, even tried to put the mp4 format - the same thing.
the end put my favorite 50fps camera down immediately and prosnimal 12 minutes. I'm still searching. . .

Too painful choice
http: // club. foto. ru / forum / view_topic. php? topic_id = 67 ...; page = 4 # listStart
http: // club. foto. ru / forum / view_topic. php? topic_id = 67 ...; page = 1 # listStart


03.02.2013 10:58:00
Ineresno have epl5 same loud shutter sound like a Nexo?

03.02.2013 11:05:00
And as always taken in the store to feel, to change shooting modes, exposure compensation to twist and check easy operation in manual mode? Wife to shoot from different angles and count the number of beats rolling pin on temechku during playback with each camera? In my opinion - the most effective ways to choose!

03.02.2013 14:58:00
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And as always taken in the store to feel, to change shooting modes, exposure compensation to twist and check easy operation in manual mode? Wife to shoot from different angles and count the number of beats rolling pin on temechku during playback with each camera? In my opinion - the most effective ways to choose!
. . . a good idea. . even more than good. . Do not know but stores that technique for a test drive give. . a day or two of course little to understand everything-feel. . but it is at least something. . I do not compare with the half-hour in fotootdele. . . if you know the address podkinte. . .

. . on temechku wife beats. . it kakraz even phone foty like. . . if the angle well. . . it's more for themselves. .

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. . . his words focusing speed in the photo at nex5-6 slower than the 60D, and even than 650D. . . So here about assuring you wrote. With DSLRs ck. Focus is comparable only last Olika and Panasov-bezzerkalok. . .

. . . . apparently realized what tuplyu - is that the autofocus SLR through LiveView and through the mirror differently. . .

03.02.2013 16:28:00
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. . . his words focusing speed in the photo at nex5-6 slower than the 60D, and even than 650D. . .


The fact that the focus on the photo at nex5-6 slower than the 60D, and even than the 650D I have not been contacted. UTB well-known fact. I wrote that focus on video at 650 slowly (without mirrors) than in the past and all Olika bezzerkalok Panas

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have your choice is not so difficult. If size is important, the choice among Olympus PM2, EPL5, E-PM5 (by age. Price) or Sony NEX 5r, NEX 6. If any size, then add the Sony A37, A57. About the advantages and disadvantages of each are written. Look for them in the stores and the probe to be constructive on personal impressions. Image quality at all on an equal footing to ISO 3200-6400.

03.02.2013 16:36:00
Topic Starter - size and even if you need to join the "elite" then 650D + lens

03.02.2013 17:13:00
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. . . . The fact that the focus on the photo at nex5-6 slower than the 60D, and even than the 650D I have not been contacted. UTB well-known fact. I wrote that focus on video at 650 slowly (without mirrors) than in the past and all Olika bezzerkalok Panas
. . yes yes. . i remember. . This is my school - understood correctly but did not pay attention to editing by reference. . .

. . . I am fully aware of the fact that doing a photo, though for a long time but occasionally. . . My knowledge is fragmentary and there is a lot of blank white spots and sometimes erroneous beliefs. . . so here and ask questions. . and already feel about that question depends on the clarity of the clarity of the answer. . . the trouble is that most often initially correctly formulate the question is not always possible. . . (Initially more - is not possible). .

this is what came after 2 days of searching (+ quotes coincided with my vision):
"I'm not so keen on photo to throw more than 1 kb and then eksperemntirovat and change lenses and regret that did not materialize Wishlist." (.. Well, maybe 1, 5K $)

"photosystems can be bought in parts. The main thing is not to be mistaken with a choice in the beginning" (even more so - it is necessary)

"SLR such dimensions settled home, well and rarely go"

universalnoudobny zoom for Sony 18 -200mm f / 3. 5-6. 3 E (SEL-18200) 27000rubley

helpful to be able to switch on the motor zoom, which is useful when shooting video

me personally when taking photos more convenient LiveView - buy SLR meaningless. . .


03.02.2013 17:30:00

. . yes yes. . i remember. .
branch for those who want to quickly and easily select Consumer Digicam. (Part 8)
Discussion coming out the FAQ by choosing the CTF

03.02.2013 17:45:00
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branch for those who want to quickly and easily select Consumer Digicam. (Part 8)
Discussion coming out the FAQ by choosing DSC

1. sorry. . but the link is not the topic. . . like SLR. . . now understand. . that we need a system bezzerkalka. . . learn about the range of 8 pieces of soap dish - why? my soap box I was quite happy. . but already uninteresting. . .
2. sensible FAQa very lacking. . . go to this link initially. . found some answers there. . . but not all. . .

03.02.2013 17:49:00
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Welcome ask for help in choosing a camera, the problem is oddly in a large number of options. But at the same time, all in some way flawed ... ​​(

Neksa As the owner and advise Canon canon. Or Nikon for the same amount. Nes6 - roads and ergonomics Neale compared to a conventional SLR, and EVI - is rubbish

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"I'm not so keen on photo to throw more than 1 kb and then eksperemntirovat and change lenses and regret that did not materialize Wishlist." (.. well, maybe 1, 5K $)


Less read formunyh theorists. Here is one recently argued with me that the 50 mm - is megauniversalny lens and 35 - Shirikov curve. Because "so it is accepted")))) Whale glass 650D is not outstanding, but for home-family POLNSTYU close all needs

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"SLR such dimensions settles house, well and rarely go"

Nex and drugeie UPC slightly less, especially with telezumom and a pile of other optics

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universally convenient zoom for Sony 18-200mm f / 3. 5-6. 3 E (SEL-18200) 27000rubley


highly recommend the store twirl in the hands of a miracle

03.02.2013 18:40:00

learn about the range of 8 pieces of soap dish - why? my soap box I was quite happy. . but already uninteresting. . .
defectiveness that such topics are "looking for something I do not know that" there regularly and questions, the answers to the koi you try to get discussed more than once, but many times.
the themes of the DSC constantly discussing and system.

03.02.2013 20:25:00
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. . . As the owner and Neksa Canon Canon advise. . . . . . . . . . . . and the EVI - this stuff

. . chamber of a class? . . . . how you did this happen? ? . . kakayato neustraivaet? what?
. . . really interisuyut reviews people have multiple devices in use and their comparison available. .

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Nex and drugeie UPC slightly less, especially with telezumom and a pile of other optics
. . . Well, with a heap - probably. . but suppose - going on a trip abroad gdenibud Basic Operation goal vsetaki relax and watch. . . portraits and landscapes in the background for an amateur secondary. . but it is still important! ! . . . . . . but mega trunk with a carry from dawns dawns before. . . it's just destiny pro - for them it work. for themselves understood - size (weight) is important. . .

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highly recommend the store twirl in the hands of a miracle
. . "Miracle" - are you in what sense? positive or negative? ?

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defectiveness that such topics are "looking for something I do not know that" there regularly and questions, the answers to the koi you try to get discussed more than once, but many times.
the themes of the DSC constantly discussing and system.

. . . topics have been studied to a headache. . . want specific answers from those who know and can help. . .

. . . I'm on my work, I can say - (20 years of experience in a rustic construction, engineering networks and finishing) - 2/3 customer comes after reading various building forums. . . 4/5 of them in such a mess in my head. . . scary. . . I am personally looking for in a forum specific people who know the answers to the questions that worry me. . .

03.02.2013 21:13:00
Nex 5n on the results of last year showed itself in terms of the ratio of the useful output of about 5 times better (more yield on the mountain) than classical DSLR A100.
by quickly layvvyu, rotary screen, ease of operating with one hand to waist level, ground level, in front of him and over his head. nenapryazhno allows tirelessly to shoot for hours, while walking. Without sit-ups for low-angle shooting. In move. The camera with the lens + 1 interchangeable lens (typically 18-55 + sel- = 50F18) easy and maloobemen.
Higher deserves compliments sel - 50F18. Very disappointed sel-35F18. Optically completely unsuitable. So there Neksa count is not yet a decent regular fixation. Neither the regular zoom 24-70 F / 2. 8 where or 17-50 F / 2. 8.
In general optics while only half of happiness so skt.

nex-5r - like on reviews radically better in terms of speed autofocus in Vol. H. Ostensibly have AF tracking. but I personally have not tried. it is based on the results of the season 2013 will probably reviews.

classic crop SLR with quite good in quality budget lens will cost no more expensive. through JVI highest speed autofocus. Number optics inspires. But because of its counterpart - A100 with 28-75 F / 2. 8, and knowing its statistics. Itself would not take.

nexu if the alternative, the full-frame Canon budget 6D, nikon D600 + 50 F / 1. 8. You can get 2 stop advantage in sensitivity, and a third higher detail. For fans shirogogo angle - the most it. But of course at the cost of convenience of shooting, and two times the value and massogabaritov kit.

03.02.2013 21:24:00

. . chamber of a class? . . . . how you did this happen? ? . . kakayato neustraivaet? what?
. . . really interisuyut reviews people have multiple devices in use and their comparison available. .


Sony neks3, he did without a viewfinder, but I was holding Sonya with EVI (SLR) - for me this is unacceptable, I advise you in the store or at a friend's twirl and compare and pay attention to this

How come? accident) Nex with pancake megakompakten, but pretty mediocre pancake on the picture, though I worried mostly on semantic content photo. Nex still interesting to me as a backdrop for the Soviet M39 optics. . .

. . Well, with a heap - probably. . but suppose - going on a trip abroad gdenibud Basic Operation goal vsetaki relax and watch. . . portraits and landscapes in the background for an amateur secondary. . but it is still important! ! . . . . . . but mega trunk with a carry from dawns dawns before. . . it's just destiny pro - for them it work. for themselves understood - size (weight) is important. . .

650D with 18-55 in the backpack - not to say that severely hampered, if that is not a mountain hike with a minimum weight

. . "Miracle" - are you in what sense? positive or negative? ?

Spin the just, and having read some garbage on the forums, do not buy it


by quickly layvvyu, rotary screen, ease of operating with one hand to waist level, ground level, in front of him and over his head. nenapryazhno allows tirelessly to shoot for hours, while walking

600D - Swivel Screen


03.02.2013 21:31:00
this is not the screen. need a swivel screen that always shoot. in move. fast-moving objects.
zerkalochny and turning - it only will remove static staging. and then, if focused at 2 sec - patient already at the limit.

tried on a Sony SLT. they are nimble in terms of the focus mode layvvyu. But enough - zerkalochny. not suitable for shooting from the lower position with one hand. hand do not turn out. so too stabbed.
In terms of grip - Nex 5N seemed perfect yet - grip with one hand at waist level, thumb on the release button.

03.02.2013 21:41:00


And you Nex with what lens? (Which is always worn)

MLM - better control the viewfinder, both in terms of plot and trite not fill up the mountains, so
On TV - I think it is possible to adapt and get used to it and do no worse

Again - author claims architecture - only here at Mona TS advise

03.02.2013 21:47:00
try to keep nominally sel-50F18 OSS.
for video and shirogogo angle - kitozum 18-55 OSS.
there are still 55-210 OSS. rarely used

75mm EGF Narrower than the required 50 but I simply just prefer portrait nepostanovochnuyu shooting, so this option is in-general and even fits.
would pass on the Nex-5r. but I believe that to change the carcass once a year while not morally ready.
although, to be honest, for Neksa acceleration AF and AF tracking (supposedly present in the Nex-5r) - are vital. so that we will live - we will see.

03.02.2013 22:54:00
One of the mistakes a novice fotografa- not take into account all the complementary costs. By 100dol = min bag + card + ext. Accum. For some reason, do not believe they should be supplemented. lens and external flash (min = 250dol), which has all the manual settings and swivel head. But without external flash matinee with a child in kindergarten or school is not removed efficiently. Familiar with Olympus EM5 has yet Sony 5n with adapter LA-EA2 (400dol, 300dol on ebey or bu), which makes it a reflex. Focus speed they are comparable (when Odimpuse native lens), although Olik has no phase focus. But in order to put a hex standard flash need an adapter from its sockets to the standard-UTB + 40dol. In NEX 6 Standard connector, but the price 1050dol in whale. And no stub on the matrix! ! ! . And the focus at times slower than the Olympus EPL5, EM5.
So we get
NEX 6 = 1050 (the camera) 100 (bag + card + ext. Accum.) 250 (flash) = 1400dol + 300-400 (LA-EA2 adapter to speed focus) = 1700-1800 . And add. Lenses can sekonomit, if you buy goods equipment Minolta (bayonet A) instead of expensive E-mount (NEX), which through the adapter LA-EA2 is now placed on the NEX-6. NEX 5r will 1500-1600dol. BUT Stabia in the carcass is still no! ! ! Terevel zoom with native Stabia Sel 18-210vv (Eph 27-300mm) 800-1000dol. Or via the LA-EA2 new Sigma 18-250mm with Stabia (Eph 27-375mm) for 600dol

Olimus EPL5 = 800 (camera) 100 (bag + card + ext. Accum.) +250 (FL36 blaze) 150 (format 4/3 adapter with micro 4/3 to buy cheap glasses of 4/3) = 1300dol. DIS in the carcass! ! ! . As a result, 250-300dol! ! ! have 14-150mm travel-zoom (28-300ef mm). For 100-150dol! ! ! 70-300mm telephoto (140-600mm Ephesians!!!!!!). And how many will be on the mount A (HEX on them simply do not have) c 5 1. CROP stands 400mm (600mm Eph) zoom with Stabia (if any)? ? ? ? Shocking imagine! ! ! Here is my friend with the camera Olik EM5 70-300mm telephoto, pyhoy FL-36 shooting birds (flash helps improve frame!!!)
http: // album. foto. ru / photos / 111568 /

03.02.2013 23:21:00
Thank you all for the Old. . . while digesting the latest posts. . .
. . . In short, I note only that the external blaze is - has already reached it (manual Yongnuo YN-460)

. . . . furthermore bought a second - even in large rooms or background to highlight just the ceiling - how to fill light. . . (Yongnuo YN-560C III in a week should come with ebeya 77 $)

. . . . try strobizm. . . )). . have even begun to guess vskidku power level for key light. . or almost guess. . . ))

03.02.2013 23:46:00

another Sony 5n with adapter LA-EA2 (400dol, 300dol on ebey or bu), which makes it a reflex.
That's the kind of avant-garde, I basically do not understand it to be an ardent fan of NEX or get caught up in it up to his ears the most, from the system to do the same UPC, mirror

04.02.2013 0:04:00
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another Sony 5n with adapter LA-EA2 (400dol, 300dol on ebey or bu), which makes it a reflex.
That's the kind of avant-garde, I basically do not understand it to be an ardent fan of NEX or get caught up in it up to his ears the most, from the system to do the same UPC, mirror

Eto not fanaticism, and Economii on lenses + quick focus to the fact Bayonet A lot of them from Minolta cheap. But without stub, but can televiichki and monopod use. Of course, cheaper initially have Sony A37 and immediately put them without an adapter. But then, as the size of the HEX with pancake not reach.

More about choice
olympus epl5 or sony nex6 help determine http: // club. foto. ru / forum / 44/674719
Choice: NEX 6 or DSLR SLT-A57. http: // club. foto. ru / forum / 78/671688
Budget ZK + Kit or budget UPC + fixed aperture http: // club. foto. ru / forum / view_topic. php? topic_id = 67 ...; page = 1 # listStart

04.02.2013 0:22:00

Eto not fanaticism, and Economii on the lenses
What other Economii ? Dial (or already have) a bunch of manual cheap lenses that really are not very suitable for anything, so if you manual'nye 650D + adapter for M42, but is it, and to whom?
SONY Alpha NEX-6 Double Kit Black (PZ 16-50 + 55-210) of about 40 thousand. - All the focus in the presence, but always wear 55-210 that's on the fan to remove "birdies" on the opposite bank
 

04.02.2013 0:32:00

BUT Stabia in the carcass is still no! ! !

Because it is not necessary, if this is the only argument (judging from your post) in favor of Olympus.



about 40 thousand. - All the focus in the presence, but always wear 55-210 that's on the fan to remove "birdies" on the opposite bank

Once again - the author of threads it is necessary not to Sita and how good the system Nex, and just hold it in your hands with telezumom or trevelzumom. As the owner of
Neksa say - I even 18-55 are not satisfied in terms of compactness and the aspect ratio of the carcass and the lens. )))
Yet machinery smoothly and systematically went to the ergonomics of devices such as 650D and D3200-D5200 and objectively they are comfortable. And pribludy, including optics, are at times cheaper. . . I personally plan to buy more to nexu only an adapter for M39 and nothing more
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