What better than a good soap dish (CD) or a bad SLR? (Part 30)


30.10.2012 17:12:00
(This is a continuation of the previous topics)

branch began with the innocuous question:
quote:
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I compete with a friend who tsifromylnitsa Rekam Presto-ML100 for $ 200 with my Canon 400D c lens Sigma DC 18-50mm f / 2 8 EX and could not defeat him. I understand that lohanulsya buying this device, it was necessary to take MarkII or at least 5D, but shame is that some sort of dish soap in all respects is worse than the unit zakotory I spent $ 1000. Steel with him to photograph things separated per kilometer, it zoom 6 times, and I have about 2-fold. Then he takes off on a 2GB video card hour video with good resolution, and I have not. He SD card latest version, t. E fast, and I antediluvian Compact Flash. Then he shot this way and that, with all ISO under different lighting results are difficult to discern by eye. He has all these buttons have the type of shutter priority, aperture priority and manual even as I have and still weighs less than 10 times and umeshaetsya pocket. And is exactly 5 times cheaper. So is it worth to pay for the dubious pleasure as the ability pokupkivsyakogo expensive glass filters and if I ever really will not buy them because I am not a photographer and shoot very rare, so I bought it to have been like all other people.
PS Under what conditions will manifest advantages of shooting with my DSLR optics before tsifromylnitsey?
However, the following is obtained prefix flame . Why? I do not know, but if you read this, it turns out that the correct answer or have not yet been found, or it is not interesting to anyone .

to beg at the option of the compact is better to ask in a specialized subject, and at the option of SLRs use the search and / or create a new topic.

efforts of the participants were able to determine what is a "good soap box" and "bad zekralka."

Discussion FF camera (sensor size 24x36 mm) recognized offtopic.

strongly advised to read the local rules of the topic.

"Iron" arguments allowed:
information that "SLR wither away", met for the first time in the 4th volume. Later phrase DSLR through n-years die , in its various incarnations, acquired the status of a cruise can be used as an indisputable argument.
"I do not see the difference" - the iron argument is used with the first post topic.
"The main thing is not the quality and content of the photos" - a myth, not related to the theme topic. Artistic values ​​photographs are discussed in neighboring topics, such as this or this.
"not shoot camera, a photographer" - the reincarnation of the topic "Your Camera Does Not Matter" © ( Ken Rockwell ).
"On a bar of soap would be better to remove the" - after such an argument does not necessarily bring photos.
In conclusion: "Ran out of arguments - Go to the personality." ! ! ! Warning! ! ! , for the transition to the individual imposed maximum number of points in accordance with the local rules of the topic.

"imperishable" topic:
About focal plane shutter "distorts the image focal plane shutter, unlike most central (probably overwhelming) bar of soap, which does not iskazhaaet moving objects."
About intrachamber treatment: "It is much less blatant, than what makes a person in Photoshop, giving the result of the work of his favorite camera. "
ants on the matrix:" Put the camera on a log, stump, and a minute later it has already crawling ants. And if neck hangs regularly smacks . Myravi really crawl everywhere. ", as well as the" Manifesto "of the author.
"Cat almusic" - Photo cat shot with an exposure 0. 5 sekudny, for example.
"Train akoledov" - photos of the train, "racing" a photographer, for example. About
an attachment to the CM for taking close-up: "For CH macrocycle, macro lenses, etc. are natural options and just Snapshooters most opposed examples of their application. And so it is clear that on the bike you can ride in the rain in the equipment of a scuba diver, but it does not compare with the ease and comfort of travel by car. " (© yuri_kov)
about shooting dynamics (aka tea) on ultrasound:" In order to shoot at the CM, you need to torment, to show the ability and skill, and CH - need to be able to press the button. " (© almusic)
About EGF 800mm on ultrasound:" Photos are something like this: the usual 28-200, 28-200 conventional, conventional 28-200, Hlobil, HLOBYS800MM - Moon ! conventional 28-200, 28-200 conventional, conventional 28-200, HLOBYS800MM - Moon! And so on. D. The moon occasionally razbavlyaetsya bellies of passenger aircraft. " (© Bushkape)
What does the word - pipiksel? (© yuri_kov)
About SLR: big, awkward, broken bones and rubs shoulders.
About soapbox: they give excellent staff, only because the fact that they took with them, but none of these shots, and no one ever will.
simple analogy, why "less" is not necessarily "better". (© KostaU)

Pearls:
Depth GRIP
Lumbar portrait
got accustomed to ekzif


Quotations:
7D - even top-end, but a bad crop CZ! (© almusic)
unpacking process even just etui with a red circle replaces sex is guaranteed for the year ahead. (© imjohnsmith2)
Grip on the size of the sensor does not depend only on the size of the pixels in the sensor. (© MultiMan)
The lens vertical grip. (© MultiMan)
phase AF last century, it is not a competitor of contrast. (© Konstantin_n)
light objects - he's evil in the sun. (© Brennet)

supposed to "Cast". Active participation in Membury filling the FAQ section is very welcome.
 

30.10.2012 17:12:00

about any mmmylkah Well now you can keep it?
placed in a melting naberdennuyu bandage roomy.

30.10.2012 17:16:00

I think 8
Are you kidding?

30.10.2012 17:16:00

As a result, after the horror. Yes
it. . . on A3 normally looks. Not regarded as a distance of 40cm A3?


So about that and it being a long time. And with 5N 18/55 now ideally for half price ryksy taken.

Aaa. . . so in that sense you! But I love Zuma, and for me between 28mm and 150-180mm fr virtually non-existent. . . and even this will Neksa doprazmer and dopdengi. . . And sorry already become Nex carry everywhere and under waterfalls with him to climb and shoot wave - suddenly splashed or something. . .

Well, thirtieth and thirty that! ! ! This case must be as it should be noted! ! !


30.10.2012 17:19:00
Budget DSLR Canon - fit soapy. . . Canon-bullshit: -D

30.10.2012 17:28:00

Budget DSLR Canon - fit soapy. . .
That's what you signed up for the new volume?

30.10.2012 17:34:00

That's what you signed up for the new volume?

Comrade time subscribed!

30.10.2012 17:40:00

new ground for germs. In the pocket sweatshirt intermeddle

30.10.2012 17:41:00

not be considered as A3 40cm distance?
Hmm. . . pulled print A3 (this one: http: // fotkidepo. ru /? id = photo: 762417), a ruler to measure the distance a comfortable viewing: 45cm. And if it was a picture of this type: http: // fotkidepo. ru /? id = photo: 736938, then there is even closer to look like.

30.10.2012 17:47:00

ruler to measure the distance a comfortable viewing: 45cm.

Her. . . not cool, what's in a near something to consider? (I mean the picture "Wolves") landscape, yes, and you can still porassmatrivat,. . but it is boring. And I Volkova soap Canon SX150 and would not go to shoot, only 350d + 70-200 / 2, 8L. . . .

30.10.2012 17:54:00

Her. . . not cool, what's in a near something to consider? (I mean the picture "Wolves")
's it, that does not "treat", but viewed from a comfortable distance. keep it away from the eyes and already it is necessary to view the look smooth background.

landscape yeah, and you can still porassmatrivat,. . but it is boring.
Nifiga itself is boring! Well this building direct competitors.

30.10.2012 18:12:00

Well this building direct competitors.

Aaa. . . Well, if in this sense. . . just awesome scenery!

30.10.2012 18:16:00

To understand that it is "successful camera" it is necessary he borrowed.
so successful it was called not lamer, and people at least versed in photography.

30.10.2012 18:19:00

Oleg, I Poll get something like this:
Soap (CM) is:
1. Any camera, those with no mirror
2. Any camera, from which the matrix is ​​less than 4/3 "
3. Any camera, whose matrix no more than 2/3 "
4. Any camera with a non-removable lens and without a mirror
5. Any camera without a mirror whose weight does not exceed 350g.
All
What you can add, correct or remove?

30.10.2012 18:26:00
Well nifigase - (part 30) is cool

30.10.2012 18:32:00
quote:
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Well nifigase - (part 30) is cool

And then! Right way go comrades!

30.10.2012 18:33:00

so successful it was called not lamer, and people at least versed in photography.
How does this affect the success of sales, if you buy it mainly lamer?

30.10.2012 18:34:00

And I think it is necessary to limit only:
1 - without a mirror.
2 - available sizes are something (here it is necessary to think and count) that allow the carrying of device in your pocket.

30.10.2012 18:38:00

1 - without a mirror.

And that's enough, that is. To. Deliverance from the mirror is intended solely downsizing.

30.10.2012 18:42:00
Add photo compact Neksa http: // fotkidepo. ru /? id = photo: 787946

30.10.2012 18:42:00

And that's enough, that is. To. Deliverance from the mirror is intended solely downsizing.
But, for example Fuji S1X like oh no small even without a mirror!

30.10.2012 18:44:00

1 - without a mirror.
And I do not have? Any camera those with no mirror or without mirror. There kakya difference?

2 - available sizes are something (here it is necessary to think and count) that allow the carrying of device in your pocket.

Yes, about the size / weight of thought, but then get a S100 - dish soap and S5IS - nemylnitsa (in size does not pass). . . . And then what? . . . How do we call?

30.10.2012 18:57:00

As will be called?
ultrazoom?


And I do not have?
Everything is so, it's just I support your most important point - "No mirrors"


added photos compact Neksa http: // fotkidepo. ru /? id = photo: 787946

Yes uzhzh. . . Lens cropped 1, 6 is difficult to put a shirt pocket, often even without a camera


30.10.2012 19:03:00

deliverance from the mirror is intended solely downsizing.
torn down causal relationships. Mirror in the chamber need to empower its specific functions / properties. If these functions will learn to do without a mirror, they would immediately get rid of, which would make the camera less.

30.10.2012 19:04:00

As will be called?
ultrazoom?

Good.
5. Any camera without a mirror whose weight does not exceed 350g.
This item will go?

30.10.2012 19:09:00

This item will go? It
.
 

30.10.2012 19:13:00

Yes uzhzh. . . Lens cropped 1, 6 is difficult to put a shirt pocket, often even without a camera
Oh. And can be put to ff (40/2. 8).

30.10.2012 19:16:00

Oh. And can be put to ff (40/2. 8).
I meant Zuma. . . my Orion15 under rangefinder FF girl can and tight jeans pocket to put

30.10.2012 19:20:00

If these functions will learn to do without a mirror

Well, yes, yes, when you are anti-gravity, then we can start making cars without wheels. Do not argue.

30.10.2012 19:20:00
quote:
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so successful it was called not lamer, and people at least versed in photography.
How does this affect the success of sales, if you buy it mainly lamer?
+ cheap + successful people understand that reflex shoot better, Nikon D3000 also was cheap but not all parameters are present sales.

and if you are satisfied with 10x15 photos with DSLR can shoot indoors under normal light bulbs and ISO 6400 with normal aging in zhpeg

but even with the built-in flash will be better


30.10.2012 19:35:00

and if you are satisfied with 10x15 photos with DSLR can shoot indoors under normal light bulbs and ISO 6400 with normal aging in zhpeg
Well, you can shoot and SLR. What is the "chip", do not understand?

30.10.2012 19:39:00
Talk about shooting at events
http: // fotkidepo. ru /? id = photo: 827909
2009. Soap dish, video cameras, and soap dishes. . . no reflex!
And it's not because they do not fall into the frame, they are simply not there. . . . But soapy in the frame were not all, there were more.

30.10.2012 19:41:00

but even with the built-in flash will be better

What is this?

30.10.2012 19:43:00

Oh. And can be put to ff (40/2. 8).
If you take the rangefinder, there generally expanse karmanorubashnyh lenses.

30.10.2012 19:45:00

Speaking of shooting at events
Pasib, about what I said

30.10.2012 19:46:00
quote:
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Speaking of shooting at events
http: // fotkidepo. ru /? id = photo: 827909
2009. Soap dish, video cameras, and soap dishes. . . no reflex!

Hey, this grandmother and grandfather in a nursing home, God forgive me. What they SLRs?

30.10.2012 19:46:00

here soapy in the picture were not all, there were more. ​​
because the photos do not look at full size posters and do not print to ful Al di quite ... well, 10x15, too ... Many do not understand why pay more if you do not use this

30.10.2012 19:51:00

Hey, this grandmother and grandfather in a nursing home, God forgive me. What they SLRs?

Hmmm. . . just oldies for SLR and cling. . . as - "In this type of my Zenith (practice)!"
I have a friend here, bought a Nikon some, such as 3200, well, that takes video. . . so now he scored on a photo and video cuts only

30.10.2012 19:51:00

Pasib, about what I said
This year has been some progress: 2 SLR 300 tourists. So much I have not seen!


Hey, this grandmother and grandfather in a nursing home, God forgive me. What they SLRs?
Yes, it's true. This nursing home. Young people too little.


30.10.2012 19:53:00

Hey, this grandmother and grandfather in a nursing home, God forgive me. What they SLRs?
But what about the "stupid navёlsya and shoot"?

30.10.2012 19:54:00
quote:
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I think 8
Are you kidding?
No, in all seriousness. There disastrous gap in the permit. All tlolko experience, so you can not trust Maximum 12, something would definitely be better.

30.10.2012 19:54:00

here soapy in the picture were not all, there were more.
because the photos do not look at full size posters and do not print for quite ful Al di ...

No, everything is easier, because not enough SHU my lens.

30.10.2012 19:55:00
Here yesterday some stray said that the initial reflex shoot as p-100 in the examples that I have the envelope. Type of noise as well, and in general. Sedna was walking home from work, I decided to check bad planning SLR. Do not deteriorated. Do not stale. Do not skurvilas matrix, not foggy or glass.

http: // fotkidepo. ru /? id = photo: 827906

not skurvilas. Not stale. And, of course, ryksa a candle to APS-C is not necessary.

30.10.2012 19:57:00


Right now comes a man who is always lying and does not prove his words, as well as being fun on high-luminosity mylok and will spread rot you for something that is not a whale.

30.10.2012 19:58:00
quote:
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Right now comes the man who always vrёm and does not prove his words, as well as being fun on high-luminosity mylok and will spread rot you for something that is not a whale.

Yes I put

30.10.2012 19:59:00

Do not spoil. Do not stale. Do not skurvilas matrix, not foggy or glass.

30.10.2012 20:01:00

not skurvilas.
Nope, not skurvilas!

30.10.2012 20:03:00

2009. Soap dish, video cameras, and soap dishes. . . no reflex!
Even today reflex in large electronics stores are purely for assortment under glass in a museum.
CD is much larger.
http: // fotkidepo. ru /? id = photo: 825382

30.10.2012 20:04:00
quote:
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Even today reflex in large electronics stores are purely for assortment under glass in a museum.

This is because they can steal, they claimed. A compact without glass, with laces. For nafig nobody fell.
 

30.10.2012 20:06:00

Even today reflex in large electronics stores are purely for assortment under glass in a museum.
CD is much larger.
http: // fotkidepo. ru /? id = photo: 825382

in our Tuapse M-Video is the same! DSLRs only a little smaller.

What better than a good soap dish (CD) or a bad SLR? (Part 30)

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