What to take a penny from Canon or Fuji?

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15.10.2009 23:06:00
That's the dilemma, the old "penny" or S5Pro from Fuji, at a price slightly cheaper Fudge, who says that, FF vs. DD
Shoot all planned, landscapes, portraits, weddings, little children. In
plus Fuji color, DD, Jpeg,
In plus Canon FF, respectively Grip, detail, noise.

What disadvantages?
 

16.10.2009 1:13:00
Bury Canon. Not progadaesh.

16.10.2009 1:15:00
I vsyal s5pro

16.10.2009 1:25:00
no offense will be said, but if you do not understand the difference, you either have not yet matured to these cameras, or they simply do not need you. Think about it.

16.10.2009 11:05:00
Fudge good. But is no longer available. It Is A Pity. And the new is not sold anywhere else. Boo?

My opinion: if not delivered light, Fuji. Especially in bright sunlight.


16.10.2009 11:28:00

Earlier this year will be a new Fuji! ! ! I advise you to wait. Old "penny" can take as a transitional model. Learn to take pictures and you will understand that it's not yours.

16.10.2009 11:31:00

resolve the issue is not on? Academic interest.

«Snout from Canon» - this is a grammatical point of view what? Something like "car of the Moskvich"?

16.10.2009 11:32:00
I would take Canan. If you come up with the mind, then the DD large proigrasha will not. A FF - it is always FF. . .

16.10.2009 11:54:00
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Earlier this year will be a new Fuji! ! !
What year?

16.10.2009 12:25:00

«Snout from Canon» - this is a grammatical point of view what? Something like "car of the Moskvich"?
This is something like "fashion haute couture". Although I do not know who the haute couture, from which fashion


I took the Canon without any "if". And optics, then what is planned? They bayonets different, so directly and not compare

16.10.2009 12:28:00

FF vs. DD

experience some bought S5Pro shows that the camera demanding shooting techniques, and apply RAV-converter. Get trash on S5pro easier than penny.

16.10.2009 13:28:00

Earlier this year will be a new Fuji! ! !
Fans Fuji is almost extinct, so who will not sell.

16.10.2009 13:33:00

Do you have problems with Quote .

16.10.2009 13:52:00
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Earlier this year will be a new Fuji! ! !
What year?


emergence of a new Fuji will be a surprise for everyone! Year, too - a surprise.

16.10.2009 14:40:00

And optics, then what is planned?
Optics is planned for the first time the cheapest to think Canon 24-85 and 17-85 under Fudge nikkor

equal Converter Pro know that you will need to pick up, and it certainly is a minus, because accustomed to very laytrumu. . .


but if you do not understand the difference,
difference I imagine you just want to understand that better suit me.


wait. Old "penny" can take as a transitional model
it for me too wasteful camera will take a minimum of 2 years PS By the way what their life is?


resolve the issue is not on? Academic interest.
Is that better? Canon® EOS® 5D® and Fujifilm® Finepix® S5® Pro®

16.10.2009 14:48:00

Optics is planned for the first time the cheapest
Then the penny from the canon. On a full frame bad optics give better quality than sprinkled.

16.10.2009 17:06:00

Fuji uses Nikon optics. Take the Nikon.
Then go to a Fuji with a stock Lenses.
If you do not want to transition model is wait for a new Fuji!

16.10.2009 17:52:00
You know this anecdote was a man sniffing cognac and says: "bugs smells."
That's the same with respect to S5Pro. probably would have said that it was "terribly noisy camera." That's all. And someone on the contrary confused little noise, it is much more important than other qualities.

16.10.2009 22:05:00
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«Snout from Canon» - this is a grammatical point of view what? Something like "car of the Moskvich"?
This is something like "fashion haute couture". Although I do not know who the haute couture, from which fashion
Seriously, "from" - is haute, which means "high".

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That's the same with respect to S5Pro. probably would have said that it was "terribly noisy camera." That's all.
interesting to find out about yourself something new. You probably telepath? Or maybe a psychic? [. . . ]

17.10.2009 22:37:00

«Snout from Canon» - this is a grammatical point of view what? Something like "car of the Moskvich"?
it is about two penny. one production canon, the second - the production of Fuji, why are not clear?


In plus Fuji color, DD, Jpeg,
for a custom matrix that gives the most DD, you'll get the most DD only in your own converter. that is, you will forever attached to him. . . color at kenonovskogo heels, IMHO, very good.

17.10.2009 22:58:00

get the most DD only in his native converter

OBS? Many popular converters understand the RAF from Fuji

17.10.2009 23:08:00

OBS? Many popular converters understand the RAF from Fuji
easy to understand RAF and understand both half-frame - not the same thing.
and so many of the popular - can name at least three who understand both half frame?

17.10.2009 23:24:00

and so many of the popular - you can name at least three who understand both half-frames?
Fuji HU, Adobe, DxO

18.10.2009 0:17:00
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and so many of the popular - you can name at least three who understand both half-frames?
Fuji HU, Adobe, DxO
native fuji does not roll, I'm asked about popular. HU and popular only fudzhivodov.
about adobe and dxo - well, let it be on your conscience. . . I read on the internet the opposite - that adobe can not use S and R pixels. I will not insist, you probably know better.

18.10.2009 0:22:00

. . . Silkypix. . .

18.10.2009 0:27:00

. . . Silkypix. . .

well that is what they say that the S & amp; R pixels understands only native currency - all this slander evil tongues?
approx. we have a branch there in fleymovoy sufferer one is, the poor man is suffering with a native converter, you have to tell it what you will. thank you.
 

18.10.2009 0:43:00

Kodak 14 / n + Fuji S5
One optics. . . . different pictures and FF and DD

18.10.2009 1:22:00

native fuji does not roll, I'm asked about popular. HU and popular only fudzhivodov.
while sigmovodov spp, what can you do, you had to write a little list in advance

about adobe and dxo - well, let it be on your conscience. . .
on my adobe, dxo did not try, let it be on my conscience only 50%
And I have a self-made softina because it divides into two separate raw s-raw, r-raw, then it is possible they can show anything chudnenko glue

approx. we have a branch there in fleymovoy sufferer one is, the poor man is suffering with a native converter
so send it to Fujifilm S5Pro - SLR camera with a unique matrix


. . . Silkypix. . .
confirm


18.10.2009 1:52:00

And I have a self-made softina because it divides into two separate raw s-raw, r-raw, then it is possible they can show anything and chudnenko glue
theory - yes. but pokashta available skleivateli (type fotomatiksa and others) is not very good. . .

18.10.2009 1:54:00

And I have a self-made softina because it divides into two separate raw s-raw, r-raw, then it is possible they can show anything and chudnenko glue

Yeah. Here they are displayed as an example

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18.10.2009 14:28:00

theory - yes. but pokashta available skleivateli (type fotomatiksa and others) is not very good. . .
http: // album. vgrin. host56. com / tuscany_scarlino / slide ... _DSF1006_s_r. html go? To get it without r-pixels had sdelat about -3 eV

18.10.2009 17:03:00

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18.10.2009 18:03:00

Kodak 14 / n + Fuji S5

way, yes, the money will be like penny from Canon

18.10.2009 18:48:00

megapixels? not impressive.
but I want to tell you that I do not question the attainability big DD, just his achievement - a very bumpy ride.
and it is better, IMHO, than to have a penny kenona Fuji.

18.10.2009 18:54:00

Canon® EOS® 5D® and Fujifilm® Finepix® S5® Pro®

18.10.2009 19:05:00

I do not question the attainability big DD, just his achievement - a very bumpy ride.
and it is better, IMHO, than to have a penny kenona Fuji.


A penny from the canon on the type and "well come"

18.10.2009 19:30:00

theory - yes. but pokashta available skleivateli (type fotomatiksa and others) is not very good. . .
how well - the second question. But "dorisovyvatelya image to full frame" I have not seen any. That is, as there would be at a serious disadvantage Fuji.



A penny from the canon on the type and "well come"
Well, in most cases it goes. Where not come down - you can walk on the thorny path. If you really want.

18.10.2009 22:07:00

megapixels? not impressive.
why megapixels? 6 megapixel

but I want to tell you that I do not question the attainability more DD, just his achievement - a very bumpy ride.
big DD - it's a bumpy ride in any technology


But "dorisovyvatelya image to full frame" I have not seen any. That is, as there would be at a serious disadvantage Fuji
looking somewhere, where you need a small or large depth of field angle, it is important, but it's not always necessary. . .

Where to come down - you can walk on the thorny path
. . . but you can not walk, depending on the scene, not the camera. But Fujiki et nice thing - you can shoot with zero, and that is a positive amendment, while other cameras -1 as default

18.10.2009 22:27:00

looking somewhere, where you need a small or large depth of field angle,
Well, I like these shots well, probably more than half differently. . .


But Fujiki et nice thing:
Well once put up and forgot. . . I do not see much of a problem here.

18.10.2009 22:52:00

Well, once exposed and forgotten. . . I do not see much of a problem here.
well, it's kind of like another, and instead have to iso 200 iso 400 (in terms of noise). This vsekazhetsya trifle, but posnivav Fujiko and realizing that the fight against overexposure may be postponed for later, you look at it differently. Well how about a pending BB

18.10.2009 23:00:00

well, it's kind of like another, and instead have to iso 200 iso 400 (in terms of noise).
Well with ISO not so clear. In the excerpt, we played this stop.


This vsekazhetsya trifle, but posnivav Fujiko and realizing that the fight against overexposure may be postponed for later, you look at it differently.
Yes it is clear everything. . . The author to decide immediately on personal preferences and the subjects I think to come.

18.10.2009 23:21:00

why megapixels? 6 megapixel
because the photo link - 1024px × 679px
but I believe that she and 6MP without artifacts SR blending
otherwise you would not have become her
big DD - it's a bumpy ride in any technology
well clear business. I'd even expanded. much anything - a bumpy ride in any technology.
But Fujiki et nice thing - you can shoot from zero, and that is a positive amendment, while other cameras -1 as default
all depends on the exposure meter.
votu me two fotega one firm (different models), so I had recently with a big surprise that one have to twist a plus but on the other - in the negative.

all
I still want to add to the debate that has recently seen a guy who bought megavystuplenie S5Pro and explained to us in any branch fleymovoy in S5Pro velolepny DD and all that jazz. and the guy before was (and remains) D40.
so here is absolutely everything that he cited as an illustration of a large DD Fujiko, it was full of trash.
in principle, a man, according to the text, not a fool. from which I concluded - getting the infamous DD with S5pro task very non-trivial, not everyone's strength. Against this background, canon 5d IMHO wins the combined properties. way, as a rule, pictures, which with great DD cite as an example - could be removed and the usual camera exposure bracketing, ie. A. 90% of this scenery.

PS It was akoledov

19.10.2009 0:09:00

so here is absolutely everything that he cited as an illustration of a large DD Fujiko, it was full of trash.
in principle, a man, according to the text, not a fool. from which I concluded - getting the infamous DD with S5pro task very non-trivial, not everyone's strength. Against this background, canon 5d IMHO wins the combined properties. By the way, as a rule, pictures, which with great DD cite as an example - could be removed and the usual camera exposure bracketing, t. To. 90% of this scenery.


Let easier. . . . The analogy. . . . . .
I charge Beretta for 5 seconds. . as two fingers. . . . . . . . . . Someone to do this for two days, thinking. . . . . . . . .
But the important control shot. . . . . . .
Although what nafig difference. . . Beretta. . . Stool. . . . . .

IMHO me important result! ! ! - namely, "how the bullet proshibla skull........" . . . . . Latest one and thought I was not interested. . . . . .
Well this topic. . . . . . Canon then loses. . . . . definitely! . . . practitioners would believe

19.10.2009 0:10:00

Well with ISO's not so clear
well, the same brightness will have to pull the stop, and then the light half fell

here on personal preferences and the subjects I think to come
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getting notorious DD with very nontrivial task S5pro
I would say that "the transfer of both DD big problem is very non-trivial"
Whether Fujiko, or MULTI personnel, or too bright, or film. And all of the technologies have drawbacks: or a tripod and a problem with the motion of objects or noise. Negative film and Fujiko in this regard naymenshee evil.

t. To. 90% of this scenery
well, it's understandable - in studio portrait DD decide the issue differently.

19.10.2009 0:14:00

and Fujiko in this regard naymenshee evil.
I would say the lesser evil! ! !


in studio portrait DD decide the issue differently
And there is the problem. . . . . . failures in red

19.10.2009 0:22:00

well and analogy

Canon immediately loses. . . . . definitely! . . . practitioners would believe
just another way of thinking: for the camera look for blown light, and the "dark bottom" (the main part of the image) reserve for later, at Fuji looking how to get the bulk of the images, and the world - for later. In general, according to Adams' exhibiting the shade, to show the world "

19.10.2009 9:35:00

Well this topic. . . . . . Canon then loses. . . . . definitely! . . . practitioners would believe
plays on some what parameters except DD?
know if Fudge won against kenona around, then took Fudge would not weak market share, especially since the bayonet least common chen kenonovsky.

IMHO me important result! ! ! - namely, "how the bullet proshibla skull........" . . . . . Latest one and thought I was not interested. . . . . .
ie only that interests you - it does not burn through if the world understand you correctly? everything else (resolution, color, convenience konvertrovaniya) - you pofik. only what you would have enjoyed Fudge - is to save the lights, right? Well, who watermelon and to whom and cartilage, there is just about this and talk.
question that loves the topic.


I finally can see here the militant defenders gathered Fuji, who wants to rub the water in a mortar about this little use fotega - Welkom in [flame] SONY Alpha System vs. Nikon vs. Canon vs. Pentax vs. Olympus vs. Fuji. Vol. 35 and then there somehow not with his hands. . .


In general, according to Adams' exhibiting the shade, to show the world "
about this, I wrote to you and four posts ago.


19.10.2009 11:31:00

I finally can see here the militant defenders gathered Fuji, who wants to rub the water in a mortar about this little use fotega
yes no no militancy here, just a lot of people do bad imagine it possible, sometimes write about "mythical DD" and so on. There is a desire to expand their horizons a bit. I'm not talking about little use 5D, I do it to look at the time. A flaming me lazy, I do not go to such branches.
From a marketing point of view, even Fudge lost D200 - 12 mp always pobedt 6, and indeed Fuji clearly the leader in this sense. And to me that that before? I also shoot interesting, but not reytingami face off
 

19.10.2009 13:15:00

I finally can see here the militant defenders of Fuji gathered

It's not voinstvennosti as noted
. . . Just comes to the ridiculous. . . argue those people who in 99% of cases, not even filmed on Fudge. . . And the tendency to plug kanonovskim penny "any hole" is already here and got


that is the only thing that interests you - it does not burn through if the world understand you correctly? everything else (resolution, color, convenience konvertrovaniya) - you pofik. only what you would have enjoyed Fudge - is to save the lights, right?
Ok! on-order your criteria. . . .
1. I do not care about the fact of burning lights. I care about how it is and what's going on with color and tones around e. The number of tones, which is in the lights, the smooth transition from the most brilliant light in the burnout. Banal underexposure, this problem is not solved. How would like the world have not failed, but one of underexposure FIG tones more on penny becomes.
2. The color and its density. . . Not stupid saturation, which is at the Canon, but with a lot of color gradations. I gave an example of how the shadow of Fuji easily stretched dense color. . . it does not "float" on the color of light. What happens in an attempt to pull the Canon shadows. . . I think it is not necessary to tell
3. Resolution. . . . Am I missing something or is it all a question of sufficiency? but not necessary. . . . .
4. Ease of conversion. . . . . Well, if you choose image quality and usability, I still choosing quality. Actually I did not bother and inconvenience of film scanning
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