Choosing SLR: Pentax km against the rest.

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15.08.2009 22:49:00
After much hesitation, stopped at km.
Pleases overall compactness of the system and the quality of the optics. If I
irreparably wrong, please tell me.
(a year ago was D40, a camera was generally satisfied, but there is interest in the Fix...)
 

15.08.2009 22:54:00
hoard. 31, 43, 77 until such commercially. . .
for 85/1, 4 have run

15.08.2009 23:01:00
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hoard. 31, 43, 77 until such commercially. . .
for 85/1, 4 run

have heard that the 43rd under FF more sharpened, myth or reality?
31 and 85 are still very expensive.

15.08.2009 23:18:00
31 + 43 + 77 ~ $ 3000
home 85/1, 4 - HZ, just pull the thing, I think

15.08.2009 23:29:00
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31 + 43 + 77 ~ $ 3000
home 85/1, 4 - HZ, just pull the thing, I think

I'm not ready to Fix Pentax masthead. At the beginning of owning a 40 or 35, then 21 or 15, somewhere like that. . .

15.08.2009 23:38:00

have an interest in Fix. . . )
budget (relatively) can be solved on the first patch. . .


40 or 35, then 21 or 15, somewhere like that. . .
zamanuha (Marketing), IMHO

15.08.2009 23:42:00

year ago was D40, a camera was generally satisfied, but there is interest in the Fix. . . )
not dozhdalis10-30- 35- 50-60-105?

15.08.2009 23:45:00
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have an interest in Fix. . . )
budget (relatively) can be solved on the first patch. . .

Erganomika and size of a nickle exclude its purchase.

40 or 35, then 21 or 15, somewhere like that. . .
zamanuha (Marketing), IMHO

Does this mean that for comparable money you can buy a similar lens, perhaps even in other systems?

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year ago was D40, a camera was generally satisfied, but there is interest in the Fix. . . )
not dozhdalis10-30- 35- 50-60-105?

105 not seem quite portretneg;
60 - the same;
50 - bit short for me to CROP;
35 - yes, but also needed Shirikov (20-30 EGF)

15.08.2009 23:53:00

31 and 85 are still very expensive.

80 will soon declare the appearance accumulate

15.08.2009 23:57:00
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31 and 85 are still very expensive.

80 will soon declare the appearance accumulate

Where can I read more about it?

16.08.2009 0:04:00

Does this mean that for comparable money you can buy a similar lens, perhaps even in other systems?
31 - 43 - 77
MF fixes with holes ~ F2-F2. 8 in the cheaper Nikon
28/2, 8
35/1, 45/2 pancake
4, 8 or 40/2 Voith
58/1, 4 Voith
85/2
105/2, 5

for all quiet thoughtful use

16.08.2009 0:10:00

Where can I read more about it?

http: // www. 3dnews. ru / news / grandioznie_plani_nikon_na_2009_2010 /

And you can ekranchik Cat's eyes in order to manually D40 pickup cheap M fixes. Shirikov M on the landscape generally full-frame sharpness not shine, so that Zuma should be fine.

16.08.2009 0:12:00
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Does this mean that for comparable money you can buy a similar lens, perhaps even in other systems?
31 - 43 - 77
MF fixes with holes ~ F2-F2. 8 in the cheaper Nikon
28/2, 8
35/1, 45/2 pancake
4, 8 or 40/2 Voith
58/1, 4 Voith
85/2
105/2, 5

for all quiet thoughtful use


I have small children. Can not imagine a hand on the tip of the running child.
You aforementioned Focht, if so, how are they to you?

16.08.2009 0:32:00

AF would like
58mm
"close focus"
http: // fotkidepo. ru /? id = photo: 368882
http: // fotkidepo. ru /? id = photo: 371365
genre
http: // fotkidepo. ru /? id = photo: 359497
portrait
http: // fotkidepo. ru /? id = photo: 217257
http: // fotkidepo. ru /? id = photo: 181465

16.08.2009 0:57:00
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Where can I read more about it?

http: // www. 3dnews. ru / news / grandioznie_plani_nikon_na_2009_2010 /

"The other day, one of the Czech User Forum, presented by the employee of the contractor British division Nikon, reported the existence of a document that at thirty-seven pages of alleged Nikon describes the strategy for 2009-2010 years "

After something like that, I usually skeptical about the information received, and many of the assumptions definitely never see the light.

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AF would like
58mm
"close focus"
http: // fotkidepo. ru /? id = photo: 368882
http: // fotkidepo. ru /? id = photo: 371365
genre
http: // fotkidepo. ru /? id = photo: 359497
portrait
http: // fotkidepo. ru /? id = photo: 217257
http: // fotkidepo. ru /? id = photo: 181465

Thank you for your examples, but I would like your opinion and see pictures
Although generally leave an ambiguous impression

16.08.2009 1:26:00

would like to view and
Fix (especially MoF) harder to remove if you do not know exactly what and why.

For the lazy set of D40 with 10-24 (20) + 35/1, 8 (30/1, 4) + 50-200VR - cheap and cheerful

16.08.2009 1:53:00
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For the lazy set of D40 with 10-24 (20) + 35/1, 8 (30/1, 4) + 50-200VR - cheap and cheerful
This set does not suit me. Carry two zoom and a fix I'm not ready. In an extreme case, one zoom and two fixation. There are similar at PENTAX: 15 (21) + 35 (40) + 60-250. The latter, however, brutally roads
Please in the future instead of writing D40 D5000

16.08.2009 1:56:00

The latter, however, brutally roads

Well, why do you system, which can not afford. . . .

16.08.2009 2:05:00
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The latter, however, brutally roads

Well, why do you system, which can not afford. . . .
60-250 is something to replace

All in Nikon good, just a little fixes motor, and with color, say all is not well. . .
Speaking of colors! There is a desire as little fooling postprocessed shoot in dzhpeg, print and radovatsya pics and free time

16.08.2009 18:20:00

And think about that as Pentax system withers. . .

16.08.2009 19:51:00
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All in Nikon good, just a little fixes motor, and with color, say all is not well. . .

Why "speak"? The very fact enjoyed D40 - it really was not his opinion? As for colors - http: // club. foto. ru / forum / 11/368370 - you can compare.

16.08.2009 21:50:00
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And think about that as Pentax system withers. . .
Oh, do not tell people
Just Pentax actively develops, produces a new camera - while K / H, and especially Sony rivet clone of a clone with minimal uluchshayzingami - marketologicheskimi rather than technical

16.08.2009 22:14:00
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And think about that as Pentax system withers. . .

tend to worry: naeb marketing lacks , won Canan some 50 billion on marketing made; You hh0 in hand, take what impressions? Nothing superfluous, the rule is not it?

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All in Nikon good, just a little fixes motor, and with color, say all is not well. . .
Why "speak"? The very fact enjoyed D40 - it really was not his opinion? As for colors - http: // club. foto. ru / forum / 11/368370 - you can compare.

color during processing can cheat anyone, only time (will) not be engaged in it.
this topic at photorecombination in the last year looked not pleased with me either Nikon or Focht 58th

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And think about that as Pentax system withers. . .
Oh, do not tell people
Just Pentax actively develops, produces a new camera - while K / H, and especially Sony rivet clone of a clone with minimal uluchshayzingami - marketologicheskimi rather than technical

Yeah, well that is not Sonia bought Pentax

18.08.2009 1:22:00
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I'm not ready to Fix Pentax masthead. At the beginning of owning a 40 or 35, then 21 or 15, somewhere like that. . .

K + M + 40lim 21lim - a great and compact package.

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60-250 is something to replace

+1 - DA50-200 quite good and quite compact.
 

19.08.2009 0:38:00
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I'm not ready to Fix Pentax masthead. At the beginning of owning a 40 or 35, then 21 or 15, somewhere like that. . .
K + M + 40lim 21lim - a great and compact package.


can be 15 instead of 21?

19.08.2009 7:32:00
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All in Nikon good, just a little fixes motor, and with color, say all is not well. . .
Why "speak"? The very fact enjoyed D40 - it really was not his opinion? As for colors - http: // club. foto. ru / forum / 11/368370 - you can compare.
color during processing can cheat anyone, only time (will) not be engaged in it.

No, I'm talking about the color of the "no treatment". In this case (for Nikon) - skip mode "Batch" through native converter (Kapchur HX). Or are you in a different color somehow got?

19.08.2009 22:29:00
Monitor pancake, it is necessary to calibrate. . . Anywhere from us not going anywhere:
and print yourself at home. Well, I do not want to spend time post-processing! Maybe I need a bar of soap?

20.08.2009 12:47:00
k-m +1 satisfied.

20.08.2009 21:10:00
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can be 15 instead of 21?

Maybe - it's a matter of taste. But 21 minutes pokompaktnee and cutting open.

21.10.2009 13:02:00

21.10.2009 16:30:00

better look at the K's. will be shot in 3200 and show everyone language

22.10.2009 0:37:00
At current prices for PENTAX optics look to the system kenon

22.10.2009 1:10:00

At current prices look to PENTAX optics system kenon

Pentax, my IMHO been formed, today one of the most balanced proposals for the CROP. Trends in amateur, I've noticed are - owners Kropa think about FF, FF and the owners do not mind to have something that would offer similar results with FF, but "less blood". For example, the FF from Canon 5D2 + 85/1. 2 will cost $ 4,700 and will weigh 2 kg, while the "analog" from Pentax (in this context - to zoom) - It's a plus 55/1. 4 - ~ $ 1200 and 1 kg (although correct, might be taken for comparison is not 85/1. 2 and 85/1. 8, but still - more expensive and heavier). It is obvious that FF allows more, but the question is still open - as "more" is worth and how much it is necessary to lover.

That is, in this and raisins kropnutyh line optics - the quality is good and the cost - less. Plus all carcasses - stabilized.

22.10.2009 7:36:00
And what side 5e + 85/1. 4 steel similar to the k-th + 55/1. 4? Try it for yourself, that in addition to the angle of view nothing in common.
I've said nothing about the possibility of cameras and noise.

22.10.2009 7:41:00
What the author somewhere mentioned FF?

22.10.2009 10:27:00

What the author somewhere mentioned FF?

author mentioned the choice of the system and about the prices on the optics.


And what side 5e + 85/1. 4 steel similar to the k-th + 55/1. 4? Try it for yourself, that in addition to the angle of view nothing in common.
I've said nothing about the possibility of cameras and noise.


Have you tried?

22.10.2009 12:25:00

Have you tried?

Judging by the spring than in the forehead with a nickle k20 difference is not so big, but for the majority of all invisible under good conditions of shooting.

22.10.2009 14:46:00
IMHO in today's Russia. Pentax realities choice as a system loses its former financial attractiveness and given the recent enchanting vysery statements servismenov "Pentara" on Pentaklube, then finally I'm sad for the future in Russia Pentax

22.10.2009 16:16:00

IMHO in today's Russia. Pentax realities choice as a system loses its former financial attractiveness and given the recent statements enchanting servismenov "Pentara" on Pentaklube, then finally I'm sad for the future in Russia Pentax

Against the background of the current proposals kropnutyh cameras from Canon to Nikon Pentax unlikely that there chance for fans (and in a professional environment they are not, IMHO, a long time). But anyway - optics, and not bad, slowly make new cameras appear punctually. It's so two stellar 16-50 + 50-135 zoom or three digits Lima (15-35-55 or 21-40-70) - what else is needed for the average fotoschastya?

22.10.2009 18:57:00


Against the background of the current proposals kropnutyh cameras from Canon to Nikon Pentax is unlikely that there is a chance for fans

Pentax has found his niche and is actively developing its. Against the background of the current proposals Nikon and Canon, at least, the K-7 is as well very interesting. So, normal in his chances for fans.



can be 15 instead of 21?
The question is, what to shoot. I have enough in most cases 21-70, (well, I want a similar glass poseredinke). But I mostly wee rented.

22.10.2009 20:14:00

Pentax has found his niche and is actively developing its. Against the background of the current proposals Nikon and Canon, at least, the K-7 is as well very interesting. So, normal in his chances for fans.

agree about the niche about it and said before (about a balanced proposal in the "crop sector" - an interesting proposal for kropnutyh optics, the relative small-sized, pylebryzgozaschita some glasses and carcasses, as well as a matrix stabilizer on board), but it should also be noted that the major players at this time, too, soup bast not slurped That's interesting - what's at Russian prices goes to K-7 + 16-50 / 2. 8 in comparison with other proposals? We (Hungary) added exactly Euro 1000, and took possession of a whale with 5D2 24-105 / 4L IS USM, while leaning to this (and my copy is still too 16-50 hlipok and countries in the work - it is necessary to get rid of, perhaps, until prices still high), but then the more I look photos with the K-7 on the network, the more frustrated, and functionality of some unfinished in it anyway.

Here To's, especially if the charge was not too expensive (no more than 500 Euro per whale), will be a very interesting offer from Pentax, IMHO - it seems that in this camera has a good chance to become a best-seller on the time for amateur photographers.

22.10.2009 20:47:00

It's so two stellar 16-50 + 50-135 zoom or three digits Lima (15-35-55 or 21-40-70) - what else is needed for the average fotoschastya?
+1! ! ! !
I still missing: fa50 / 1. 4, tamron 28-75 / 2. 8, da 50-200
saving up to 15 Lim as soon as immediately!

22.10.2009 22:58:00


K-x plus 55/1. 4
may 50/1. 4?

22.10.2009 23:20:00

may 50/1. 4?

Here we must pay tribute to the Pentax - they did 55-1. 4 Fix the SDM , that, IMHO, is well illustrated by a systematic policy aimed at meeting "kropnutyh users" just fucking buy this glass is problematic. . .

22.10.2009 23:28:00
55/1. 4 full-frame
 

22.10.2009 23:46:00
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saving up to 15 Lim as soon as immediately!

photo zone on the recently tested - interesting to get a piece of glass for those who prefer fixes - I looked there 14/2. 8 from Nikon ( sprinkled on too ) and thought: Pentax SMC DA 15mm f / 4 ED AL Limited - must have , that would be about it not said before.


55/1. 4 full-frame

the better! And yet - "Essentially equivalent to an 85mm f / 1. 4 lens upon 35mm SLR cameras" and only SMD AF.

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