FAQ: Canon EOS 450D / Digital Rebel XSi Volume III


26.05.2009 12:11:00

read the instructions p. 77
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http: // eos. nmi. ru / articles / ZoneSystem /

I am sure all will become clear.
 

26.05.2009 12:22:00

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Who than wipe the lens? I

this set - http: // foto. ru / webbers_cleaning_care_komplekt_dlya_ochistki. html , though rarely, fastened protective filters, and indeed, neatly I use glass. . that thing more useful - http: // foto. ru / matin_m-6228-1_grusha_s_kistochkoy_silikovnovaya. html

26.05.2009 12:40:00

read the instructions p. 77
just with the instructions and began to pages 77 and 88. It is still read by Nikon's instructions. They when manually selecting a point and spot metering metering is at the focal point. In kenona vice versa. Nikon option seems more logical

26.05.2009 13:03:00
Came to having to purchase a battery grip. By sozhalniyu we have in Kiev prices are clearly inadequate, so I decided to order from e-bay. Prompt, here this option is normal? Stoa or take something else (in this case, throw me a link )?

26.05.2009 13:03:00

+1, my Sonya even partial metering was at any point of focus, what to choose - at such and measured, and recorded after half, and there is not enough fingers fucking brought center, zaviksiroval, focus point brought - removed already home all went to sleep. . . Crap.

26.05.2009 13:53:00
Good afternoon, participants in the forum!

picked up his digital SLR camera. By profile I'm not a professional photography. But we would like to maximize the quality of the photograph. Rented mostly indoors and outdoors. Saw photos taken on the 450D and 5D.

Pictures with 5D much higher quality than a 450D or it seems to me (and this is achieved by a special game settings and no special differences)?

Where do border on quality in the line 450D / 50D / 5D? Where is the line of amateur camera and fully professional?

26.05.2009 14:07:00

450D / 50D / 5D?
and the difference in price to you is irrelevant though such a huge

26.05.2009 14:20:00

professional camera for what? Photographer he's not-all-trades. To 50D at the time, and to whom, and medium format does not roll. It all depends on the requirements for shooting.

Do you have requirements?

26.05.2009 15:10:00
And who
than wipe the lens?
And I'm here this morning near fontatom Fota, so spattered piece of glass


I just wiped before Linz in the usual video camera with a dry cloth for glasses.

now also been splashing on the lens, the front filter fingers on the camcorder touch muddy. all kopilos than one month. . .

went to the store, bought a pear liquid (smells like acetone), lint-free cloth, paper, pencil lenspen.

pear blew the dust off, it almost did not help.
took lenspen, rubbed them. garbage, dry pencil only crawl on the glass.
wet tissue fluid and fear wiped filter (decided to train on it). all the stains are gone, all the drops, all traces. otmylo perfect.
then saw divorce. took lenspen and removed in one go divorces.

repeated with other lenses - all fine.

way pear, fluid and tissue - a collection like this. 400r worth it. digiCam or something like that is called. China frank. but it works. we have a magizin (f... plus), where they sell this company.

way, each agent alone (pear, pencil, liquid) - do not give the final result, it is good that I immediately bought all.

26.05.2009 15:22:00
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read the instructions p. 77
just with the instructions and began to pages 77 and 88. It is still read by Nikon's instructions. They when manually selecting a point and spot metering metering is at the focal point. In kenona vice versa. Nikon option seems more logical
Tying metering focus point uncomfortable. This is different in principle of action and must be controlled independently from each other, in particular, attached to the center.

26.05.2009 15:30:00

on stamps (1d) also point movable, and there are multi-point measurement could
and 450d do
and I would like to measurement was not 4%, and 1% - 4 large
too well, so I'm not asking to Canan

especially funny that shoot cameras kenona binding to the metering point is,

26.05.2009 15:30:00
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Where do border on quality in the line 450D / 50D / 5D? Where is the line of amateur camera and fully professional?

border passes: 450D / 50D / here / 5D
camera with reduced matrix size / here / camera with a "classic" matrix size (35mm)

Professional - a person getting paid for the performance of certain actions.
specialist - a person qualitatively perform certain actions.


For you none of the cameras will not be professional, so take it, then it is better to "lie in the hand", and the remaining money to buy high-quality optics / lenses from Canon is the lens with a letter "L" in the name, and red or green obodochkom .

26.05.2009 15:35:00

It basically different steps and must be controlled independently from each other, in particular, attached to the center.
so not all of the same modes. There are partial and center-weighted metering, let them be stopped regardless of the focus on the central zone. And at a point in my opinion is illogical to separate them. If I chose a side focus point, so the main subject is likely there and waited for it to be done, not in the center.
These features can of course adjust, nothing terrible is not here. Just do not understand the logic of development of such a system

26.05.2009 15:46:00

point system is often used to measure a certain portion of the frame, but the focus completely different
more problems here is a large area of ​​this point

26.05.2009 16:24:00

often used to
statistics collected?

26.05.2009 16:29:00

is one of the techniques for which this is the spot metering and need
such measure in the street on the pavement (closest brightness to 18%), and exposure * Remember cropped and set the focus where you want

26.05.2009 16:44:00

measure on the street on the pavement
than a partial metering in this case is not pleased?

26.05.2009 17:07:00

in this case, I did not even hit the spot, that is - 4% too much
okay, asphalt (although it 18% not so easy to find, it is usually lighter and the dark spot can be significantly less than 4% of the frame)
such as a jacket and found 18% gray place - it is difficult to
jokes aside, but the area spot metering at 450d is too great even, in my opinion
unclear how this measurement is arranged, whether it is the one area of ​​the 35-zone element, whether 5-9 zones with coefficients

I did when I first took the 450d in the hands and looked through the viewfinder, was convinced that the central circle, this is the partial metering and spot another half
but no


26.05.2009 17:27:00

measurements. We need to understand or know how to work the camera Metering and how it is tied to the gray mentioned, then the logic of Canan will be clear. They clearly indicate - use Matrix metering, it universal, but average. It will be clear about what says when complaining about the 4% -ta and why requires 1. I understand it. But this is one estno logic, but there is another, of which you speak. One is not better than the other, the only question in the application, in its use.
Here for example a quote from an article by a specified site:
"Always use partial or spot metering, if you are going to use the exposure compensation when shooting a very bright or very dark subjects (my approx. For which it is necessary to take measurements, but that is not a fact that should be the focus this time, and secondly and most importantly, it's about choosing Exposure value \\ \\ trio exposure aperture and ISO \\ deystno this process is separated from the focus).
Never use exposure compensation to the results of the evaluation metering, as you do not know what compensation has already applied the camera itself. "And yet," Whatever it was, if you want to control the whole process with great precision, use the partial exposure meter. In this mode, the count value of only the central region - indications in the outer regions of accounting is not accepted. Accordingly, if you know what you are doing, you can (my note. frankly obliged) to apply the payment which corresponds exactly to the shooting scene. "

26.05.2009 17:40:00

took lenspen, rubbed them. garbage, dry pencil only crawl on the glass.
discovered the secret before the lens elozenem breathe right.

26.05.2009 17:46:00
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took lenspen, rubbed them. garbage, dry pencil only crawl on the glass.
discovered the secret before the lens elozenem breathe right.

Directly instructions and written?

26.05.2009 18:55:00

breathe. . .
wrong
here as well: drink stack of alcohol (vodka, or divorce will) not wince, and immediately breathe on the glass! then lenspen

26.05.2009 19:03:00

discovered the secret before the lens elozenem breathe right.

saliva droplets emitted from the mouth during breathing, hard to wash. Try if possible never breathe on the lens.

26.05.2009 19:40:00

here as well: drink stack of alcohol (vodka, or divorce will) not wince, and immediately breathe on the glass! then lenspen
I Lenspen wet (on the hand leaves a black mark) and breathe on the glass does not need

26.05.2009 19:48:00

such as a jacket and found 18% gray place - it is difficult to
Example picture using spot metering (separated from the point of focus) can show?
was convinced that the central circle, this is the partial metering
I thought so too at first


need to understand or know how it works Metering
this is no problem, humanities brain do not suffer
But one matter how it works, and the other - as in what situation applies. I was actually the second and interests. Why canon decided that it would be more convenient to users. Or vice versa uncomfortable with the aim of divorce to buy more high-grade carcasses


took lenspen, rubbed them. garbage, dry pencil only crawl on the glass.
himself pencil dry impregnated foam insert in the cap. Before use, you need to pencil in the cap. . uh. . poke and twist to impregnate

26.05.2009 20:25:00
Dear Colleagues, I am sorry that I repeat, but:
came to having to purchase a battery handle. By sozhalniyu we have in Kiev prices are clearly inadequate, so I decided to order from e-bay. Prompt, here this option is normal? Stoa or take something else (in this case, throw me a link )?
 

26.05.2009 20:43:00
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blame. As technologies like
not recommended, but if there is often another way, poking around with a bottle of liquid is not always a reason, nothing irreparable even theoretically from the breath does not happen, but sometimes there is a benefit.
general, thank you, thinking

26.05.2009 21:03:00
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If I chose a side focus point, so the main subject is likely there and waited for it to be done, not in the center.
It is not obvious that the measurement should be done at the main subject - can be very difficult to assess what the amendment to make this object. Moreover, it is not clear that focusing on a side point, I then locks the focus and recompose the shot - does not necessarily mean that what I need at least gets to a point of focus. In general, there is no connection between those for which the sharpness, especially on what to measure exposure, and the fact that the most important thing in photography.

I do not like that Canon Evaluative focus point - better as a Pentax, where he was tied to the center of the frame (but as evaluative metering, it takes into account the variation of brightness in the frame, and, perhaps, not only that, but the overall brightness).

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took lenspen, rubbed them. garbage, dry pencil only crawl on the glass.
himself pencil dry impregnated foam insert in the cap. Before use, you need to pencil in the cap. . uh. . poke and twist to impregnate
I thought that this is lenspen dry cleaning, and have to twist the cap to clear himself pencil.

26.05.2009 21:09:00

I do not like that Canon Evaluative focus point - better as a Pentax, where he was tied to the center of the frame
center-so it's almost an evaluation from a central point, even more or less the estimated coefficients of the neighboring points gives
course if the evaluation will not solve all of a sudden that best fit what a landscape exhibition or something uchudil
malopredskazuem he actually
I came to the conclusion that it is better to use the center-point is almost always
I sometimes use
but partial - never ( only experiment, but realistic training with him I do not have)

would be better instead of partial averaging over the whole field made


26.05.2009 21:22:00
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: in order to divorce for the purchase of more high-grade carcasses
Why assumptions about such filth? What is the simplest modern SLR is not a full-fledged? Price camera - it is primarily the structural strength and precision manufacturing. Seductive are these invisible properties.

My hypothesis is that the logic evaluation mode in the Canon is more focused on tracking autofocus, and even through all the points at once - in this situation it is difficult to think about the exposure compensation. And for slower shooting modes can be important simplicity and predictability. When shooting have to follow the three parameters simultaneously: the composition, focus, exposure, and even in the case of zoom and angle. Four parameters at the same time - this is more than the average human capabilities, only two or three. The fact and equipment to make life easier. A spot metering - it is not automatic.

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center-it's almost as estimated from a central point, even more or less the estimated coefficients of the neighboring points gives
I very much hope that the evaluative metering takes into account changes in brightness. The simplest Evaluative Pentax was in dual-zone - in the middle, and the entire frame. He worked as a center-if not a very big difference in the brightness of the center and the field. If the field was considerably brighter than the center (to take something against the sun) - gave testimony to the exposure compensation + center. This automation of the exposure compensation button (1. 5 or 2) a simple film-shoots (probably from Pentax was more smooth gradation correction). This pentaksovskogo measurement was enough to shoot on slide film. In more advanced cameras measurement was shestizonny.

26.05.2009 21:53:00

better in Pentax, where he was tied to the center of the frame
in Pentax evaluation can also be configured to bind to the focal point. That would be ideal, but no luck
Why assumptions about such filth?
is not the enormity of this marketing
What is the simplest modern SLR is not a full-fledged?
just at kenona or all of the producers? Usually less operational control, more simple modules AE and AF.
Price camera - it is primarily the structural strength and precision manufacturing.
do not think that the 1D buy only durable magnesium body

26.05.2009 21:55:00
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I came to the conclusion that it is better to use center-almost always
Me too.

26.05.2009 21:58:00

in kenona evaluation takes into account many parameters that predict the result is almost impossible
example, he finds himself landscape (top cell - light, bottom - dark), and the portrait sometimes guesses, and then his behavior close to Center or partial
there database of various combinations of values ​​of 35 zones
he chooses just have to find out empirically

26.05.2009 22:01:00
Lord! What about summing autofocus, which I described a few pages back? This is a feature of my copy, or all is there?

26.05.2009 23:17:00
Friends!
long time I want to buy SLR optimal (up to 800 in. E. KIT or Body), a very long time to choose.
found one test comparing two Canon 450D, which look to the (previously thought to take 1000D, but the lack of spot metering are not satisfied) and the Canon 40D.
Prompt, it is true that the difference between the two images is so high with an increase of the same lens or is it in the test lie - and tested using different lenses? Scroll down to 6 minutes 45 seconds and see the test and showed the audience footage from the monitor.

http: // www. pocket-lint. com / news / news. phtml / 13985 / can ... s-40d-video. phtml

already studied thoroughly Fuji 6500, I want to go to devices with interchangeable lenses, Activities portraits and buy a telephoto lens with a single stab.

26.05.2009 23:19:00

450d even and better removes than 40d
but in general, the difference is negligible

26.05.2009 23:22:00
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450d even and better removes than 40d
but in general, the difference is negligible

So lie?

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450d even and better removes than 40d
but in general, the difference is negligible

Thank you for the rapid response .

26.05.2009 23:25:00

the same day shoot? 450d win with good lighting and little to lose in poor

26.05.2009 23:36:00
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the same day shoot? 450d win with good lighting and little to lose in poor

see. Spasibki!

26.05.2009 23:37:00

450d win with good lighting and little to lose in poor
because of what? probably marketers say - type megapixel there is more. . .
Yet?

26.05.2009 23:41:00
And another question.
I southpaw and often adhere to the camera than the right, and even a little finger of his left hand. Look what 450D unlike my Fuji 6500 screen is almost stretched to the left edge. Would not that be awkward, because he will get dirty all the time, if it relies fingers? As screen, bright, clear day are clearly visible tint?

26.05.2009 23:51:00

because it will get dirty all the time, if it relies fingers?
And my nose it gets dirty. . . .

26.05.2009 23:53:00
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Prompt, it is true that the difference between the two images is so high with an increase of the same lens or is it in the test lie - and tested using different lenses? Scroll down to 6 minutes 45 seconds and see the test and showed the audience footage from the monitor.

http: // www. pocket-lint. com / news / news. phtml / 13985 / can ... s-40d-video. phtml

I think that's true. Look at these two pictures. Which one is sharper with increasing?
http: // a. img-dpreview. com / gallery / canoneos450d_sampl ... nals / img_8758. jpg
http: // a. img-dpreview. com / gallery / canoneos40d_sample ... nals / img_0060. jpg

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because it will get dirty all the time, if it relies fingers?
And my nose it gets dirty. . . .

Super . And I'm used to navigate on small screen rather than electronic viewfinder.
From the side, probably funny looks when I hold a big, black Fuji 6500 (almost SLR) for not much bent at the elbows hands .

27.05.2009

I used to focus on the small screen, but not on the electronic viewfinder.
Quickly pereprivyknete if you take)))) you see in the store works as LiveView 450m that would understand what are communicating. . .

27.05.2009 0:03:00

lefty and I often adhere to the camera than the right, and even a little finger of his left hand
you this tank weighing 700g and still manage to keep one hand? And how then twist the zoom?


And my nose it gets dirty. . . .
+1, there is a problem. Perhaps the only drawback is the large small screen

27.05.2009 0:04:00

precisely because it gives megapixel
more real resolution (in lines)
noise a bit more too
but because I wrote - in good light
and at worst, though more noise, but the reduction to a single format printing, the same noise


day small screen fades
yes and so he gives a little wrong color, the color on it can only roughly estimate the
that spoiled - nothing to worry about, just stick it on film, I recommend to buy a cheap film PDA screen 3, 5 and cut 3 ""


27.05.2009 0:06:00

you see in the store works as LiveView 450m
before it is highly desirable to scroll through the instructions

27.05.2009 0:07:00


nose did so, dirty

27.05.2009 0:07:00

Perhaps the only drawback is the large small screen
Based on the nature of soiling I reduce or change the position on the small screen Cameras would not change anything So it is good that he is big))


day small screen fades
Adding brightness saves me save. . .

before it is highly desirable to scroll through the instructions
+1, it is necessary. Consultants often do not know how to turn on Livvy.

 

27.05.2009 0:11:00

before it is highly desirable to scroll through the instructions
when I could not find a dealer contrast AF in lv
and looking at standing next to 40d, authoritatively spoken - and what you would like, is there not a soapbox, there's even a half-40d is no such
and I knew that there was focus, but how to set up did not know, I have not bought a machine then
but I read the instructions, and the next day went to the store, but there was already another vendor


I think it's true. Look at these two pictures
you on such comparisons do not look
plane apparently shot a man who knows how to do it
a pointer - it is not clear who
450d "clearer" - it gives more detail, with a 100% scale may even seem a little soapy

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