What to choose or Canon G9 Canon 350d

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07.09.2008 2:51:00
Prompt what better to choose
Canon G9
Canon 350d

Now they are about the same price

want a good machine. Not for professional.
Mainly automatic operation.
 

07.09.2008 3:05:00
Canon G9

07.09.2008 9:57:00

you represent all that is SLR?
if not - it is better to r9

07.09.2008 10:20:00
Here
MAZ such. Of course, the picture with the 350d better at times, even a whale, I believe (though no whale 18-55 IS use was not possible). In any case, the image can be improved by placing the lens better. But
. Possession SLR - very (I repeat - very) expensive. Because, like, the first thing you will want is to increase the focal length telephoto by buying or Brigde. Next will come to the conclusion that the whale even IP is worthless - a replacement will be considerably more expensive than the device itself. After that, you want the flash. Then he fixes, filters, tripods, lens hood, lens again - only manage to shell out. Eventually, you will no longer miss 350d, it would get glitches with autofocus, its dark and a small viewfinder, the lack of the ISO in the viewfinder, and if you left eye shot - it would get to press the push button nose and obtaining ISO 1600 instead of ISO 100, would get the inability to disable pyhi but save AF assist beam, and so well. d. And you want to upgrade the carcass, on something like the 50D, or, God forbid, 5D, and even 1Ds! And it is quite terrible money. And yet - there was a man, and no man - disappeared in the depths of a hobby, t. E. A hobby swallowed its owner.
In short, if all this you are ready, then take r9.

07.09.2008 10:23:00

+1 SLR still trebet more conscious approach. By the way as the G9. Use these cars on a large avtomate- makes no sense, as they are still imprisoned for the experienced user. the same quality in the auto mode can be obtained for much less money. When I was a case - when a girl Fota alternately 2mya fotikom - G9 and SX100, two on full automatic (well, except that the blaze on xs100dostaetsya manually). so - twice cheaper sx100 at that time showed the best foty that does not indicate that F9 lower quality .

07.09.2008 10:23:00
Yes, and if you are willing, then take 450D. Honestly, there is what overpay. But! Cm. Above, starting with the word "but.".

07.09.2008 10:26:00

way yes . When I took a reflex - his wife said - that this bandura (vsegoto whale Nikon 70) are in the hands vozmet. . . result - Wait fotobarahla house about 150-180 mp, has plans for about the same amount, and after I went to 300ku - 70koy completely owns his wife (though to a meta photo shoot - I drag the whole economy )

Oh - again fleymovaya branch - which is better or CD zekralka born

07.09.2008 15:11:00
Initially, when I started to select the device to stop buying G9
But then bought on the 350d - the price was almost the same

first thought necessary to take too 350d - still SLR (at the same price)

But since the whole family will enjoy, considered - 90% of the shots, I'll shoot in auto mode, all the others will shoot only in auto mode (parents ask the camera in guided tours). So he returned to the G9.

And lastly decided to ask here

After your Board decided to stay at the G9

But be advised what other devices can be considered as an alternative to G9 for my case.
main criterion - quality pictures. Price - no more than G9

07.09.2008 15:23:00

canon a650
image quality
have the same power AA and rotary screen

07.09.2008 16:15:00
From nezerkalok Great (but is no longer available, but you can find) - Canon PowershotPro1. Sompaktnaya very fancy machine with EXCELLENT zoom.

07.09.2008 18:02:00

horseradish option
firstly at least strongly poyuzany - modelka
old and a maximum - the brakes strongly

as well as from non-SLR is very good sony p1

07.09.2008 18:22:00

as well as from non-SLR is very good sony p1
's current size and cost surpasses onaya cost SLRs.

07.09.2008 18:28:00


yes but if initially there is no desire to use different lenses - a very good option

07.09.2008 18:34:00
If you take a bar of soap, I recommend Samsung 815PRO. Tears all. http: // market. yandex. ru / model. xml? hid = 91148 & amp; mode ... 5105 & amp; clid = 502

07.09.2008 19:09:00

Fujifilm F100fd / F60fd / F50fd


Aga, and the sensor is very noisy, although there Optics "L-class."


08.09.2008 2:04:00

Samsung 815PRO. Tears all.
Yeah, this noise minimal even iso except 1/3 "must still search!

08.09.2008 2:56:00

for shooting on the machine take Panasonic.

08.09.2008 3:31:00

for shooting on the machine take Panasonic.
yeah, and then spit on his lousy squelch. it is better F9. and even better with the new 350d stabnutym whale. even on the machine.

08.09.2008 11:30:00
Better 40ket + 17-55 IS + 70-200 2. 8 IS.

08.09.2008 11:59:00
But
advise what other devices can be considered as an alternative to G9 for my case.

From compact digital cameras - Nikon R5100, he pokompaktnee be, but a little braking than T9
From DSLR - Nikon D40, from the budget DSLRs he's probably the best machine, sharp optics and easier management.

08.09.2008 12:13:00

Nikon D40 . . easier management.
is when instead of what used to memorize a bunch of buttons, you have to climb on the written Russian language understandable three-level menus?

08.09.2008 13:10:00
Olimpus E420 dablkit - dimensions and weight are close to mylnichnym. But the mirror in which it is possible real control depth of field, considerably smaller noise, optics, idushaya complete, very decent quality and it is not necessary to change (though possible). And the price is close to the Canon G9.

08.09.2008 13:11:00
the man said that he did not fit SLR - relatives will enjoy
so no, still shove him 40d, 5d and Th or not 1d?

instead g9 can be taken, as here said, a650is - is not raw, but rotary screen and batteries, jpeg quality is the same as that g9, also much cheaper

08.09.2008 13:20:00
Probably all the same focus on the G9
In a650is just do not like the batteries. Maybe something I do not understand, but I think it is more convenient to charge the battery.

08.09.2008 13:21:00

a650is - no raw

Not really. http: // www. ixbt. com / digimage / canona650is. shtml

08.09.2008 13:35:00
quote:
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probably still focus on the G9
In a650is just do not like the batteries. Maybe something I do not understand, but I think it is more convenient to charge the battery.
Plus batteries - they can buy in the stock if there is no time to charge.
And if you have time - AA size batteries.
(it's only about diet, is not about the models themselves)
 

08.09.2008 13:42:00

know, but officially no
and the write speed of raw worthless
but you can use
yes, 650is and with companies controlled unlike g9
in general it's just a killer g9

08.09.2008 13:44:00

man said that he did not fit SLR - relatives will enjoy
E420 and other SLRs to have quite a full lv mylnichny mode.

08.09.2008 13:48:00

size g9 and e420 is also the same?

just if people chose g9, it's better to take the 650is


08.09.2008 13:56:00

size g9 and e420 is also the same?
Yeah differently smaller 350d, which in this respect is not confused.
129. 5 x 91 x 53 (+ lens of) mm vs 106. 4 x 71. 9 x 42. 5 mm - knows what a difference.

just if people chose g9, it's better to take the 650is
they are not the same size, too: 106. 4 x 71. 9 x 42. 5 mm vs 112 x 68 x 56 mm
deal also with third-party firmware with this approach, no one will, and with the raw "ohm too. So the question is rather limited by the price / Accum.

08.09.2008 16:39:00

DTS
for shooting on the machine take Panasonic.
yeah, and then spit on his lousy squelch. it is better F9. and even better with the new 350d stabnutym whale. even on the machine.

Yeah, 15x10 photos with a microscope to look at, and then guess where there "squelch nasty."

08.09.2008 17:32:00

nifiga be healthy noise to a minimum of ISO
even if the size of the monitor to watch

08.09.2008 17:54:00

Yeah, 15x10 photos with a microscope to look at, and then guess where there "squelch nasty."
and that there wondering - where no tkni finger, there will be. since the entire area.

08.09.2008 20:38:00
Do not take the G9, if you do not use it to the fullest. I'm the owner of the G9, and said that the quality of images in automatic mode had lower than average among the compacts. You go to a branch Canon PowerShot G9, with RAW There many unskilled users is complaining.

general, need specific expectations describe. I, for instance, had a SLR with good glasses, but it was replaced in the G9, as the size and weight sometimes does not allow the camera to use. A G9 takes a little space and weighs a little - always at hand. In general, the quality of its images, if you shoot correctly, produces beautiful photos.

Its only drawback: the noise sometimes leads to the appearance of under-eye yellowish spots that are difficult to remove in the RAW converter and advanced shumodava. A shot of nature, landscape, macro, and so on. N. Is quite up to par. In many ways, thanks to a good lens, megapixels and RAW.

08.09.2008 20:57:00

probably still focus on the G9
If most on the machine - improper waste of money. Look at the Fudge 50fd. If you find 31 - very lucky. Balanced mylnichka.

and half the price of F9, by the way. And if you want to bid F9, but pofunktsionalnee - Fudge s9600. Dimensions more, but good picture and zoom on the machine.

And yet there are warehouses Rydvan (sony R1) - is ideal for nezerkalok currently. But the price in view of phasing out, completely wrong. . . But shoots. . . Take a look at my the gallery.

08.09.2008 23:14:00
Damn. . . . You are going to take pictures, or like now everybody loves "klatsat"?
klatsat is "two muzzle Prytula bothering and arm themselves a blaze." If so - then the soap dish. If you take pictures - 350D.
Because: In full automatic will be no worse than a soap dish + growth opportunity.

I do not know. . . Can I have another point of reference but I just do not see here the problem of choice. But I was on vacation and not too lazy to carry all their fotoprimochki: it is necessary to take a picture - it is necessary to think in advance what kind of lens right now, in the room Natulya, nafotkal - satisfied. I do not need a camera - in the room and left. Meaning to do a bunch of mediocre shots which never come back? It is better to do good 1-3.

09.09.2008 0:46:00
quote:
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horseradish option
firstly at least strongly poyuzany - modelka
old and a maximum - the brakes strongly

as well as from non-SLR is very good sony p1

ssonki their inadequate flowers bastard and design. . . brrr, and even more so this coffin on wheels, p1 ))
Country option.

09.09.2008 1:12:00

Now they are about the same price
It's all very simple. For G9 is a finite sum of the costs for the 350D - is the initial amount of costs. But the achievable result differs accordingly.

09.09.2008 1:25:00
quote:
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Now they are about the same price
It's all very simple. For G9 is a finite sum of the costs for the 350D - is the initial amount of costs. But the achievable result differs accordingly.
Well said.

09.09.2008 1:39:00
Hands off Sony,! ! ! !

09.09.2008 1:50:00
Still have not made a final choice
Help with the choice and the need to buy before the end of this week

now choose from:
Canon G9
Canon A650
Fujifilm F50fd
Fujifilm F100fd

Priorities
1) Good quality images automatically
2) Good quality pictures in manual mode
3) Preferred battery

The main thing now - good quality in the automatic mode, but with time and hope to use manual settings.

only machine that I shot at the moment Canon 350d (at work). 90% of the shots they took off in fully automatic mode, and I liked them.

09.09.2008 10:09:00

is when instead of what used to memorize a bunch of buttons, you have to climb on the written Russian language understandable three-level menus?

should not be exaggerated:
1. The man wrote that he often will shoot on the machine, ie. E. Does not need to be adjusted.
2. There is a programmable button on it you can make the most part of the function, and it's better than "remember a bunch of buttons."
3. It is not necessary to use the "three-tier menu", all the parameters displayed on the screen and manual modes are controlled by a joystick (navigate to the desired option and to change it)


man said that he did not fit SLR - relatives will enjoy

Well, first of all, a person chooses between SLR and a top soap. For vtoryhYu that prevents relatives shoot SLR? Usually, people who have taken the first mirror after tsifromyla, confuses only need to stare into the viewfinder, not the screen (some still somehow confuses the need to turn the zoom lens, instead of buttons to control it). The rest of the actions do not cause problems. At the same time managing SLR like even easier than soap, machine works better than a bar of soap, the desired scene, as a rule, is in the amateur SLR autofocus is faster shutter speed is shorter, respectively, and take a good picture with SLR much nonprofessional easier than soap. Virtually the only negative mirror - size and weight every day with a drag bored quickly (although I lasted a year, carrying everywhere with him, "suitcase" with the D40)

09.09.2008 10:18:00

1. The man wrote that he often will shoot on the machine, ie. E. Does not need to be adjusted.
at D40 shutter button is a peculiar and somewhat easier than for example at the D80?

2. There is a programmable button on it you can make the most part of the function, and it's better than "remember a bunch of buttons."
is never easy. it is necessary to climb in options, decide what the single most important, and remember for a function is not signed.

3. It is not necessary to use the "three-tier menu", all the parameters displayed on the screen and manual modes are controlled by a joystick (navigate to the desired option and to change it)
and such exposure threshold autoiso there?

09.09.2008 10:39:00

after 350d, on any of the cameras on your list, you will be pleased with the pictures is unlikely. . .
IMHO of course. . . .
can you still not even started, but I personally, after CH soap dish in hand trying not to take.
a photo quality requirements in all respects I have risen and the soap dish are no longer fit into these requirements, although a few years ago, I was shooting at a bar of soap from Kodak with a complete machine and was happy

09.09.2008 10:53:00
I believe that "for home, family" will suit any modern soap dish. Print 10x15 the difference is practically imperceptible. Another thing, if you intend to shoot often in adverse conditions (without flash with a lack of lighting, for example). There SLR "taxis".

09.09.2008 10:53:00
Only 350d. She will live longer than your soap dishes to die 3 years later for the works respectively. That quality and performance that you give 350 - none myltsa will not. Well, try to grab a bar of soap or a cat jump baby smile. In the meantime, soap dish will think - the cat will fly, the child will turn away. I have after many compact digital cameras 400D and his wife and daughter with him managed, getting good shots on the machine. Optics whale I have supplemented telephoto Sigma 70-300 for 4500 rubles. Everything. Properly selecting aperture (priority AV- 8) you get a very decent sharpness. Plus Converter PAB. Sigma at DF = 70 allows for the sharpness of the picture is almost perfect, close to half a ruble fixes.

The only negative - the absence of a video, but it's not a problem if there is still in your pocket and Fuji FD-50. And then the camcorder. It is better to buy a good camera, then buy more than a few compact digital cameras, as they breakdown.

Forgot to add - the battery in the SLR will exceed half a bucket capacity of AA batteries. So that this problem decided. The charge is enough for about 600 pictures - a week-long trip into the forest for example.

09.09.2008 11:08:00

Virtually the only negative mirror - size and weight every day with a drag bored quickly (although I lasted a year, carrying everywhere with a "suitcase" with D40)
this problem is solved by the presence maalenky pocket soap dish. but not G9 and A650.

09.09.2008 13:18:00
If you choose not SLR, then you would still have recommended in my previous one post

09.09.2008 13:28:00

a650is
f50fd
 

09.09.2008 17:48:00

koks1
a650is
f50fd


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