FAQ on the Nikon Coolpix 8800. Who cares, please come here.

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02.02.2005 23:08:00
Now, it's time to replace the old Nikon Coolpix 4300 with a new toy
I once created the FAQ topic for the Nikon CP 4300, go in, refill (the former Nikon CP 4300 is the first one.), But times change and 4 megapixels come in 8 -My. Pleased with the complete set consisting of the actual camera, battery, charging, manuals, cables, software, lid for the lens with a cord, strap and remote control in the case. On the camera adorns the inscription " Made in Japan " . No flash drives, and do not need these " Sticks " For a couple of frames. While not removed, the battery is charging. By the way from the Coolpix 4300 batteries are not suitable . Tomorrow I hope for the first pictures. In the meantime, I'm reading the manual.
 

03.02.2005 1:30:00
On dpreview it is written that he RAW writes 25 seconds is it true?

http: // www. Dpreview. Com / reviews / nikoncp8800 / page11. Asp

03.02.2005 8:40:00
http: // www. Videomax. Com / forum / forum_posts. Asp? TID = 7432 & amp; PN = 1 & amp; TPN
as many as 23 pages.
As for the 25 sec, this is of course a bust, but it writes very long,
so I changed it to D70

03.02.2005 8:52:00

And how much does he live from one battery charger? My colleague has 8700, so the standard battery dies like a fly, Ml
And yet, try to test the work of VR? What endurance can really be removed from the hands with a stabilizer?

03.02.2005 22:07:00
There is a question: what speed of a flash drive is optimal for a subject? I understand that the faster the better, but will the fastest (and therefore the most expensive) work at its maximum speed (mainly the speed of burning RAV's on the flash drive is of interest)? ? ? In general, what brand will you advise: Sandisk, Kingston, Transcend or what?

Thank you in advance!

11.02.2005 14:55:00


Well and where are the enthusiastic testimonials of the owners? That, sold the device on the second day? Why? !! !!

12.02.2005 20:22:00


What is the speed of the flash drive is optimal for the subject?

Sandisk Ultra 2 is enough for the eyes. Writes much faster, but still slightly slower than it does on the same Pro1 flash drive.


well, where rave reviews from owners

I wrote that had the opportunity to juzat turns Olympos C-8080, Canon Pro1 and a subject. 8800 taxis. Especially bright break at night panoramic pictures from hands. The only annoying weighting is the zoom. In Pro1 it is much more convenient.


14.02.2005 17:55:00
The only jamb of the device besides the zoom control, namely the purple tide at high resolutions is killed by the new firmware 1. 4. It remains only to wait " Killer " From its main competitor. Or take it right now.

15.02.2005 23:54:00
Looked at how 8800 wrote NEF. From pressing the trigger to the appearance of a picture on the screen or viewfinder, 9. 5-10 passes. 5 sec. , And before the end of the recording on the USB flash drive for 11 more seconds. Total shooting cycle in RAW is about 21 seconds. The size of NEF-a-12 Meg. The most interesting thing is that on the Transcent 256 MB card that the Transcent 1 GB 45x cycle time is almost the same. I want to try SanDisk CompactFlash Extreme III 1 Gb. I wonder if the reduction in the shooting cycle time will give this card or not?

16.02.2005 23:43:00
Question to the owners - CF Kingston 512Mb Elite Pro 45X for 8800 normally or due to some features something else is preferable?

17.02.2005 7:59:00
I can only say that the usual flash drive from Kingston is slightly slower than the same class from Sandisk.

17.02.2005 13:03:00
I tried SanDisk Ultra II 1G yesterday. Same 21 seconds
It looks like the interface problem is 8800.

17.02.2005 13:40:00
Nothing is perfect.

Which format is better to write? NEF or TIFF? I have two gigabyte cards, so the place is not a problem.

17.02.2005 14:20:00

Better in the NEF. This is if you need to squeeze out of the frame in full. And so in Jpeg come down. In addition, TIFF places takes up more NEF-a.

17.02.2005 14:42:00

Better in the NEF. This is if you need to squeeze out of the frame in full.

And how is this to be understood? So he's still better than a tiff because of the expanded features or because of the smaller size?

17.02.2005 15:21:00
FB9AE239C65433A96BC17F976F1452A NEF - the same RAW is a cast from the camera matrix. TIFF is obtained after processing the information from the matrix.

27.02.2005 23:19:00
Yeah, all the same Vibration Reduction in 8800 piece is strong.
Taken without a tripod with hands http: // www. Pbase. Com / sergdx / image / 40238106
Exposure 1/8 zoom 89 mm.

04.03.2005 18:13:00
quote:
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Nothing is perfect.

And in which format is it better to write? NEF or TIFF? I have two gigabyte cards, so the place is not a problem.
Definitely better in RAW (NEF).
In the network there is a sea of ​​information in English and Engl on this issue.
It's not so much a place on the map (although it matters) and that NEF is written twice as fast. TIFF at the subject produces colors in the format of 8 bits per channel (i.e., only 24 bits).
NEF, respectively, 12 bits per channel (36 bits). This is a difference of 4 exposition exposition! .
You can write a very long time and a lot but do not want to, it's better to read for example a textbook article on www. Afanas. En " Reasonably about the photo " . I dug in the net also a sea of ​​good English-language articles.
When shooting RAW, you have to acquire a RAW converter (I downloaded from the site
Adobe (free) plug-in for Photoshop CS). And thoroughly creak with brains. But the result justifies itself. Tiff same as it is implemented in the subject is useless thing.
In 99. 5% of the pictures will not be different from the picture in Tiff and Jpeg in Fine format (not even Extra), even when viewed at a very large monitor magnification unless you know in advance where it is. Do not believe it, check for yourself, the output is unambiguous - shooting in TIFF is a waste of time when shooting and places on the memory card. In addition, removing the RAW-e, there is no problem getting a TIFF retroactively. There are a lot of subtleties in RAW conversion, but what can you do.?


If you do not want to fool your head, put JPEG Fine and go ahead.

The subject has a dull autofocusing and the manual focus is even worse. I used to have a Panasonic FZ10 there it was just brilliant. The rest of the FZ10 is much worse.

This is all the lyrics. I would like to discuss with the people the optimal settings of the device when shooting in different modes. There is something to discuss.

05.03.2005 11:40:00


When shooting RAW, you will have to acquire a RAW converter (I downloaded the Adobe (free) plug-in for Photoshop CS from the site
).


Hmm. A couple of weeks ago for the NEF from the SR 8800 plug-in was still not there. I had to drag the Nikon Capture.

I would like to discuss with the people the optimal settings for the device when shooting in different modes. There is something to discuss.

Fully supported. The device is not easy.

05.03.2005 13:32:00

05.03.2005 18:08:00
And what about his speed? Really reportage shooting? Or children, for example? Speed in the sense of pressing the button, until the next frame. In short, how often does it allow?

05.03.2005 22:45:00

Of course, 21 seconds for writing NEF-a strains.
Tell me, how many NEFs fit in the buffer? That is, can I immediately shoot the next NEF, if I change the monitor's options so that it does not display the last frame shot. (The latter, I assumed, was preserved, as in earlier models).
And has the mode saved three (or more) frames per second with one exposure in JPG format?

06.03.2005 1:35:00

It looks like this NEF camera is only for slow shooting studio or landscapes. For the reporter or there to shoot the kids - this is JPG. The buffer, apparently, this camera is too small, and the speed of exchange with a flash drive at a level of 1 Mv per second. And do not try to stick a fast flash drive, the result is the same .

06.03.2005 9:12:00
So how fast is the speed? Can I write specifically? It's not difficult to see how often you can press the button. . . . What to shoot and about the buffer, I'll figure it out myself. I'm asking about speed.

06.03.2005 10:25:00

IMHO, themes with the proud name FAQ are also created so that potential buyers can narrow the search range and not download the manuals to all possible bidders.

If the camera can take a picture in the TIFF, then the buffer size already allows several frames to be shot in JPG, the question is how many frames with the maximum resolution and quality and for what time can it be removed by using the exposure from the first frame?

And yet, how many NEFs are put in the buffer? If one, it is natural that it is only suitable for shooting static subjects, and if three or four or five, then this is quite another matter.
 

06.03.2005 15:58:00

If you consider that NEF is written somewhere 21 seconds, and its size is 15 meg, then the speed is even less than 1 MB / sec. It's the same with JPG. 3. 8 seconds are written 4 seconds.
It was tested on the USB flash drives Transcent 1GB x45, Apacer Photo STENO II 1GB 66x, SanDisk Ultra II 1GB. Hope only for new firmware, which will accelerate the exchange with flash drives.

06.03.2005 16:25:00

Yes, I'm simpler I'm asking everything! Probably wrong question I ask. . . I'm wondering if you take pictures in jpeg, and shoot fast moving subjects, for example children , how often does the camera allow you to press the trigger? Twice a second you can or not?

Is auto focus fast or not? Well type " Paparazzi " Really provide such cameras ? Can I shoot it serially?

citation:
The same is true for JPG. 3. 8 seconds are written 4 seconds.

So, do you want to say that there is only one shot in 4 seconds? Weakly believed. . . .

06.03.2005 18:39:00

Need to download the manual.
It's clear that the comrade has not figured out yet, or his manual got caught in English. When he sorts it out, he will probably tell in detail.

I can only say that the Nikon 5000 can shoot three frames in a row in one second or about eight or ten if you press very often every time. There is a separate button for controlling the focus and exposure, that is, you can easily save time for these functions. (Simply put, if this is properly configured and clicked when needed, you can shoot very often.) One trouble is that only one NEF or TEFF is placed in the buffer.
I think that the speed at 8800 is not less, but maybe even more. Yes, and the buffer, in theory, should be more, otherwise, it will be just a shame of some, as Kartsev said.
The problem of rate of fire for Nikon in general can not be raised. If you study the control of the camera, then the pictures can be obtained instantly. It's another matter how many such shots and what quality can be obtained in a short time.
What the 8800 buffer has and how it is adapted to the different image formats, that's what you need to focus on.

06.03.2005 19:48:00

Yes, I would love to download, but on the modem I'm sitting, 26, 4 speed

06.03.2005 20:17:00

And I have already lost my traffic, since, from this month, the speed has doubled.

06.03.2005 23:28:00
I'm sorry, I did not understand the meaning of the question. "

There are several burst modes.
If you set the mode to Continuous H, then the camera shoots up to 5 pictures at a speed of 2, 3 fps to press and hold the shutter down, then the camera switches to the EXTRA quality with the HI quality.
If you set the Continuous L mode, the camera shoots at a speed of 1, 2 fps in series with up to 11 frames as FINE.

07.03.2005 9:01:00

Dear, can I write it easier, in Soviet seconds? What kind of fps? A frame of thumb? How is it at generally accepted time units?

07.03.2005 10:17:00


fps are frames per second. So it is written in the instructions.


And for rapidly changing processes, such as shooting children, there is a function of 5 frames per buffer. The camera shoots at a speed of 1. 2 frames per second until the release is released. At the same time, the last 5 frames are written on the flash drive.
For extremely fast shooting, there is the Ultra HS function when the camera shoots with NORMAL quality 640x480 and a speed of 30 frames per second up to 100 frames.
There is still a function of shooting at a certain time interval - 30 seconds. 1 min. 5, 10, 30, 60 min.


07.03.2005 15:04:00

Well, a little more, and you will discover the secret of the multicolor.

And for rapidly changing processes, such as shooting children, there is a function of 5 frames per buffer.

About five frames (of unknown format) in the buffer, written in " Every corner " In the brief description.
About the fact that Nikon can scribble JPEG, and like a machine gun, even I already wrote.
Tell me, finally, is it NEFs you can drive five pieces into the buffer or not? And then, after an in-depth study of the basics of digital photography, telepathic abilities began to fail. Do not be offended, but honestly, you are already quite intrigued me.

07.03.2005 23:44:00

Alas, Nikon NEFs can not shoot five frames per buffer
Only JPEG as EXTRA and worse.

07.03.2005 23:59:00
Well, finally! And I thought it was a sinful thing that it would remain a mystery. And it's always so hard for you to get an answer straight from the question? Are you married? If so, how did your wife get the consent?

08.03.2005 0:12:00

Yes, that's what I was most afraid of!
It would be better if they resumed the release of the 5000th, but with a large, every three, buffer. Then, in the market, they would not have competitors in terms of size - quality - opportunities.

08.03.2005 12:27:00

The fact is that there are certain terimny.
citation:
And how is it with speed? Really reportage shooting? Or children, for example? Speed ​​in the sense of pressing the button, until the next frame. In short, how often does it allow?
What you wanted to ask is called " Shooting speed " . So, if you do not set the mode Continuous (continuous shooting mode), while the frame does not record on the USB flash drive the camera does not respond to pressing the shutter release. Only Continuous mode allows shooting in batches. BUT! In Continuous mode, you can not shoot in NEF.
By and large, the quality of the JPEG output by the SR 8800 is sufficient to look at the 17 " Monitor and you can safely print up to A4 size. Only the most sophisticated specialists will be able to heal the difference between the EXTRA quality JPEG and the processed NEF, which often turns into the same JPEG.

08.03.2005 12:37:00

Let me disagree!
I just took the subject and clicked it in the shutter priority mode (it can be done in any other than the full machine) in the " Continuous H " (In it is up to 2, 3 frames per second) it is 5 frames in NEF (in the mode "Continuous H" the subject can NOT shoot ONLY in TIFF) - read the instructions CAREFULLY (see page 88) and do not enter people Misleading!
For all the quality of the JPEG at the sabzh, the possibilities when working with NEF are incomparably greater (especially if you need to extract information from the shadows, fixing the WB, which, by the way, works fine, but still, etc.) I will not distribute from the differences between RAW and JPEG, this in any FAK is independent of the model of the device)


Did I answer your question?

08.03.2005 12:57:00

I'm sorry, really shoots in the NEF. Just checked. It worked, but only in Continuous N. mode. I was confused by the link below " RAW and HI image quality reset to EXTRA. & Quot; It does not apply to the Continuous H mode.
That's just the question was " How often does it allow? & Quot; , And this does not apply to the Continuous mode, because, as I have repeatedly noted in my posts, until the frame is written to the USB flash drive, the camera does not respond to pressing the trigger. Can you confirm this?

08.03.2005 13:11:00

Last I confirm with some reservation. The Sabz is really very long writing Nef on the USB flash drive, only this process looks like this: in the usual single-shot mode, after pressing the trigger in the viewfinder / on the screen, an hourglass appears on the background of the shot, and after a while the green diskette appears and you can fully shoot Only after its disappearance. So the next shot can be done after the disappearance of the hourglass, although the previous frame is not yet fully recorded on the USB flash drive.

08.03.2005 13:45:00

In normal single-shot mode, after pressing the shutter release in the viewfinder / on the screen, an hourglass appears on the background of the shot, and after a while a green disk appears and can be fully removed only after it disappears.
The camera allows you to shoot in NEF and other modes immediately after the hourglass disappears. Even with a green diskette. Just checked. Happened.

08.03.2005 17:50:00
Gentlemen, I decided to take 8800, but in Moscow I will be very short.
Tell me where you can take this device cheaper (VVC, Electronic World, Gorbushka, Mitino), you can have your own versions of , well, preferably with a home warranty. Best regards, Frost.

08.03.2005 20:13:00

Yes, thanks to


$ 914 in the ultra computer, this is in the Kolomenskaya metro station. Check their website, there is a map of the route.



The terms in each manual and each manufacturer have their own. That's why I'm asking simple, human, conversational Russian.
The question is much clearer: " How often to click allows " ? How can you specify it differently? What is the speed of shooting? So you had to ask? And the so-called " Shooting speed " - this, in my opinion also the speed of focusing. So why confuse a simple question? And where does the term in general?


08.03.2005 21:39:00

I searched through the PRICE. RU (link at the top of this page) and stupidly called all the offers, asking " White " Do they have devices. Accordingly, there must be a 2-year-old firm Nikon Guarantee (a coupon with a hologram and an inscription in Russian on it) and a POLYGRAPHically executed instruction in the RUSSIAN language (and not a photocopy and / or a CD with it). As a result, most of the proposals were dropped because of the " Greyness " Devices a " White " I found in SOVINO. RU - brought to the next day and gave it all a thorough check (for broken pixels), but it was a month ago. Now like it is in the VIDEO. RU - they have delivery and a store at VDNH.
Have fun!

08.03.2005 22:02:00

Yeah, in the video mix the prices are plague The only thing that is good in them, check after persuasion can normally. If it's not a pity for it, $ 50, then of course. . . .

09.03.2005 14:02:00
[Q]:

Yes, I'm simpler I'm asking everything! Probably wrong question I ask. . . I'm wondering if you take pictures in jpeg, and shoot fast moving objects, for example, children like , how often does the camera allow you to press the trigger? Twice a second you can or not?

Autofocus is fast or not? Well type " Paparazzi " Really provide such cameras ? Can I shoot it serially?

It may not be suitable for paparazzi. Max. The speed at me at shooting in JPEG Fine at me turned out in dir. Quick Responce. In this mode, if you do not release the button until after the shot is taken, the subject does not perform autofocusing and exposure measurement, and the picture goes with the previous settings. In this case, you can shoot at a speed of about 1 frame in two seconds. On the monitor for about 1 sec. Review, 1 sec. The shot is locked (the hourglass is displayed) and then you can press it. If the button is fully released
then everything is normal in the usual way: semi-pressing, autofocus, metering, end-to-end compression and shooting.

If you set the series mode, then get. track. Things
- if the series is fast then general marasmus: removes 2. 3 frames per second but on the monitor nothing is visible. It's not entirely clear what to shoot.
-if the series is slow then only the review frame is visible (this is much better than in the previous case) and although not very convenient, but the series 1 is done. 1 frame per second. According to review
changing once a second, you can not track the movements of the object.



I generally do not have the first digits. Camera and it does not seem particularly braking. I would not say that this is a puncture of the company Nikon (this topic is constantly exaggerated in the forums). All requests are like that. Buy a DSL for a kilobax. For a couple of kilobaks, a set of lenses and braking will not.
(Try to estimate: cost of a TV 350 mm with the image stabilizer + a decent macro lens). That is life.

Interesting question:
Shooting in the RAW (NEF). I understand that the histogram which is displayed before the frame is loosely related to what will happen on the frame. Good! We look at the histogram
already taken off. I so understood that it corresponds to the histogram as after the conversion to JPEG. But how can it be guessed for RAW (without any increased contrast, etc.)? Am I right or not?
What modes do I need to set when shooting in RAW so that the histogram on the monitor more accurately
reflects the real state of affairs?

09.03.2005 14:56:00

I do not think that the histogram in RAW is very different from the histogram after conversion to JPEG. Although the question is interesting. It will be necessary to have a look and compare what the camera gives out with what Photoshop gives out and Nikon Capture.
I think the difference will be only on frames with a large dynamic range.


Histogram which is displayed before the frame
If it's not a secret how you manage to display the histogram before the frame. I did not find anything like this in this cell. After, yes, but I do not think so.

 

11.03.2005 10:05:00

If it's not a secret how you manage to display the histogram before the frame. I did not find anything like this in this cell. After, yes, but I do not think so.
Canceled. I found it myself. Working.
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