Pentax Optio43WR - waterproof CD

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03.04.2004 20:05:00
Someone fingered this miracle? What do you think?
 

03.04.2004 23:46:00
Duc just like the summer is expected. . .

17.05.2004 13:43:00
The owners already have? What are the differences in the pros and cons of 33WR?

17.05.2004 15:22:00
More on sale have not seen. While it is possible to look at the detail www. pentax-optio. ru .

17.05.2004 15:40:00

should theoretically be faster series of frames, and less lag. Quality of photos is unlikely to be better - optics and so on edge IMHO. Another video 640x480 30fps. Even some unnecessary scene.

Better shutter / lens cap made.

17.05.2004 15:41:00
Like, on the Top crust this weekend saw chёrnenky he, unlike 33WR. 4 more mega him, other differences did not notice the price, unfortunately, can not remember. Learn TTX yet in the internet is already full disk imaging.
lens and the matrix of the same size, but is cut smaller. What this leads, we know.
covers on the lens is impossible, t. To. The first lens is sealed. This Minolta cap, so they are not protected from anything. Here on the beach sand nabёtsya, see how it will creep.

01.06.2004 16:20:00
Here, appeared in the online trade "e - no one has ever fingered?

as I want, but

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should theoretically be faster series of frames, and less lag. The quality is unlikely to gallery better - optics and so on edge IMHO. More videos 640x480 30fps. Even some unnecessary SCN.

with a lid - it is clear...
less lag promised (and this is - well)
video - to hell with him
" unnecessary SCN "offset the lack of manual modes

but at the expense kakchestvo gallery - question. . . .

more pixels at the same size of the matrix may increase noise.
1), respectively, which _maksimalnoe_ "ISO" automatic choose?
2) and will be included when the squelch?
3) will be perceived as _subektivno_ pictures?

01.06.2004 19:09:00

"unnecessary SCN" partly compensate for the lack of manual modes
Duc in my opinion, what added - just unnecessary (schaz do not remember)
And from the right IMHO - closed aperture priority. or even in manual focus Snap - mode.
For: I do not think that will change anything compared to 33wr
1) I did not rise above 320
2) Work shumodava was not seen. Either he's always there or not always. IMHO, of course.
3) IMHO the screen - worse on paper - better. For nefig on the screen to look at 100% for noise

Threat and I was hoping maybe for 33 firmware will vmese 43 - hell. A set of features in the firmware determine marketers, and they sell a new "improved" camera right.

found the same samples! ! !
Hooray me! ! !
http: // forums. dpreview. com / forums / read. asp? forum = 102 ... p; message = 8865146

Ndaa I can say. . . but on my 33wr blue branches clearly smaller, and generally seems higher clarity. . . However, about a definition may be guilty hands. . . Need more pictures nadybat. . .


02.06.2004 10:38:00
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found the same samples! ! !
Hooray me! ! !
http: // forums. dpreview. com / forums / read. asp? forum = 102 ... p; message = 8865146

Adding to 01. 06. 2004 20: 41:

Ndaa I can say. . . but on my 33wr blue branches clearly smaller, and generally seems higher clarity. . .

never dolez to the original pictures (read, tried - FIG)

02.06.2004 11:09:00

Oops! and I did not keep.

02.06.2004 13:58:00
And the plot there suitable - excerpts should be rather short.
means a relatively high "ISO".
noises here and could see and HA and denoising. . .

02.06.2004 14:34:00
Judging by some of the pictures that I made Pentax 33WR, shumodava in this phone no.

02.06.2004 15:36:00
Judging by some of the pictures that I made Pentax 33WR, shumodava in this phone no.

is, of course, it would be good, but hard to believe. . .

04.06.2004 13:11:00
-nibud Who can give a reference to the original ph subject?

04.06.2004 13:49:00
Try
glances back often for Pentax Forum dpreview. com. There sometimes BorisK1 upload photos and indicates how to get the originals. sometimes it turns out. Or ask to send

04.06.2004 15:12:00

Thanks, of course, but I've been there and this model is not observed any foty. . . Here

04.06.2004 15:17:00

Yes, there is - at 33. But I believe that significant differences would not. The difference between 3 and 4 megapixel already been discussed many times on the forums. Came to the conclusion that the difference hypothetical and theoretical: can be seen under a microscope, and in nature - no.

04.06.2004 15:21:00

Yes, absolutely true, but it is not only in pixels

04.06.2004 16:31:00
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http: // www. pbase. com / cameras / pentax
just for 43WR there (now) nothing (for 33wr - there are 157 pictures)

11.06.2004 13:52:00
Well, I grabbed 43WR ( here ). . .
first shots can be found here

11.06.2004 14:53:00

Mercy overs. I hope they will lie down for a while on the site? To ssylochki if that could be given?

After some time, lay the same house. Can be compared.


11.06.2004 15:18:00
Pictures em.

Damn, batteries included (pornoslonik) - ATSTOY!
enough staff to 8. 10

another hemorrhoid got - with the standard card (16M panasonic) it is perfectly installed Linux,
but with 512M transcend - horseradish

batteries are charged - will torment on. . .

11.06.2004 15:52:00
In onlayntreyde ( http: // pentax. Onlinetrade. Ru ) took the 400 last Friday.
impressed by the quality of pictures (after Panasonic Lumix DMC-LC43) ambiguous (unfortunately compare both camera under identical conditions is not yet possible, as Panasonic went on a business trip):

+ pictures of moving objects appear sharper (as Snap-mode and in P mode with various settings of focus)
+ macro (!)
+ video quality
+ manual focus

- noise even at ISO100 appear larger (although, again, it may be that I, having read on the internet all about matrix and the noise is too biased attitude - and still can not compare)
- in the video "pinned down" sound (perhaps because of the sealed membrane microphone)
- moderate barrel distortion at wide angle and quite strong return (do not know the correct term ; In general, the horizontal line located in the upper part of the frame, which must be straight, curved downward) at full zoom.

Ergonomics controversial (I like it, just want a short wrist strap). I do not regret buying, t. To. Analogues him (based on my requirements for all-around digicam) I just do not see.

11.06.2004 17:15:00
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In onlayntreyde ( http: // pentax. Onlinetrade. Ru ) took the 400 last Friday.
pancake! and I did not have
had for 420 to take - and they _partii_ there was only 5 pieces. . .

hemorrhoids with 512 MB SD once he has resolved - I did not understand what it was

11.06.2004 17:24:00

fairly strong inverse (do not know the correct term;
Pillow
 

13.06.2004 23:06:00
Means so:

  1. machine still puts ISO400 - checked electronically
  2. sometimes edge subject stand out somehow sooooo. . . to "cartoon".
  3. sound "gate" corresponds to the time it is not clear what. Anyway, long exposure is not clear when it has completed. . .

15.06.2004 10:33:00



should not get upset. As for me and probably for you, one of the most important criteria was still good and some pylevodozaschita impact resistance. Personally, I would take him (WR33) as a tool for hiking in zlachnym (in terms of temperature, humidity, alcohol, beer, sea water) places. For eighteen months in very far abroad with occasional forays into the hot spots above the unit did not disappoint once. I think in that sense, it is no analogues.
Yes, the quality of images in comparison with my same Olympus C-740, he loses. Olympus but I do not always dare to take wherever Pentax took without a doubt.
Try to put a plus contrast and saturation. Maybe you will like more pictures.

15.06.2004 11:04:00
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  • sometimes edge subject stand out somehow sooooo. . . to "cartoon".


  • I think it helps decrease the contrast a bit.

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  • I could be wrong, but I think he's a "double" - the first time you open the gate, the second - at closing. Long exposure time as the second sound you need to focus. But it is necessary to check.

    15.06.2004 11:48:00
    Long exposure shutter clicks twice - the first time in the end of the recording / start shumovychitaniya (closed). The second time - when shumovychitanie completed (open) After the first click, you can move. Shumovychitanie - reading the data from the image sensor with a closed gate. Then these data are subtracted from the image. Somehow, it is believed that it helps

    15.06.2004 14:11:00
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    [q] sound "gate" corresponds to the time it is not clear what. Anyway, long exposure is not clear when it has completed. . .

    I could be wrong, but I think he's a "double" - the first time you open the gate, the second - at closing. Long exposure time as the second sound you need to focus. But it is necessary to check. [/ Q]

    not. once croaks. . .

    and "night scene" it blaze flash, then croaks, and then another for a long time can keep exposure, working through the background.
    and here it comes, and anus vulgaris - the subject tries to shift out of the frame, ie. A. Like "all over"


    http: // www. glasnet. ru / ~ jno / 43wr / imgp0115a. jpg (that's how it happens - 359x480, 79. 1Kb)
    http: // www. glasnet. ru / ~ jno / 43wr / imgp0115. jpg (original - 2288x1712, 1832. 7Kb)

    who are not afraid, you can swing 2. 3M http: // www. glasnet. ru / ~ jno / 43wr / imgp0045. jpg - filmed at night with it (after a glass of cognac ) - but exif in place (ISO400).

    little (320x239, 63. 5Kb)

    on http: // photo. rol. ru / showgallery. php? cat = 500 & amp; ppuser = 31 posted yet 60+ photos.
    unprocessed images in any way (some - rotated -90 & amp; deg; utility convert from ImageMagic)

    movie, by the way, is quite good.
    normally clings to your TV (movies shot in this case - does not seem!)

    softinkoy complete (ACDSee for Pentax) fully functional.


    16.06.2004 17:20:00
    Well, it is not so scary.
    By the way, when you connect the device to the TV in any mode dampens your monitor and uses the TV set as a monitor bolshoooy. Sometimes it is convenient when shooting indoors.

    17.06.2004 9:36:00
    By the above, I would add that finally got a chance to flip both cameras simultaneously (a subject and Panasonic Lumix DMC-LC43). What conclusions (we must note that I have tea in the technical aspects of photography, and my opinion is necessary to be regarded as purely "newbie"):

    1. Outdoor shots under good lighting conditions (modes: Program, infinity): measures the same exposure, Panas stretching the truth with flowers toward blue (although the sky at the same time it seems more plausible than that of Pentax). Distortion at full zoom at Panas practically not observed, whereas Pentax significant.

    2. Indoors in average lighting conditions (light from the window; mode - program): measures the same exposure. No flash floods Panas again in blue, while the Pentax correct color reproduction. Flash much of a difference in the color reproduction is not seen, but Panas "lit" closely spaced white objects, while the Pentax showed shades of white / gray. What surprised me, t. To. Before that I thought it was Pentax peresvechivaet pictures with flash and that it is generally more powerful than he.

    3. Indoors in low light (corridor). No flash in "program" mode Panas correctly selects the shutter speed, the pictures are quite bright and detailed, but with Pentax trouble - puts the shutter 1/4, and though you burst. Increased sensitivity, exposure compensation does not help. Naturally, the pictures are too dark. However, you can experiment with the "night portrait" / "night view" might be a good judge. However, it is better to shoot with the flash. With the outbreak of both devices in principle remove the same.

    4. Inside the light bulbs, portrait mode (- portrait). No Flash Pentax pleasantly surprised correct white balance, while Panas steadily fills up in red (at the time I was struggling with this installation at BB + lamp color setting for "Cold", but it does not always work). Flash - the same way.

    5. Noises. Prior to that, it seems that Pentax noisy, but after comparing the images are not found much difference.

    My summary: as regards the quality of images from the Pentax one main disadvantage compared to Panas - distortion at telephoto. The rest of the Pentax is an equal or even slightly outperforms Panas.

    I regret the lack of analogue "Megaburst" from Pentax. That is, continuous shooting is, but it is much slower (and 4-in-1 does not suit me). To capture fast action and fleeting as at Panas, will not work. May need a faster flash drive.

    Until selling Panas, will continue to compare both devices. Discovered something new - I'll write. Pictures, unfortunately, I can not give, t. To. There interior of the apartment and / or portraits of relatives.

    will add about batteries: with both devices using Panasonikovskie, Panas in 1600 (were included) in 2000. Pentax Panas takes to the last, then simply pulls the lens and quietly dies. We Pentax charge indicator jumps from "yellow" to "green" to "red" to "yellow". . . Once passed out, I switched it on again, set interval shooting with a flash, so he has made 50 shots before finally died. In general, low power consumption, is comparable to Panas: 300-400 frames can be done, some with flash, plus / delete / transfer to your computer.


    17.06.2004 9:52:00
    I would like to see the night shot at the minimum and maximum exposure iso. with a tripod or stable surface.
    order to assess the level of noise. thanks in advance

    17.06.2004 9:53:00
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    I would like to see the night shot at the minimum and maximum exposure iso. with a tripod or stable surface.
    order to assess the level of noise. thanks in advance

    In case made and posted. Just usually at night I sleep

    17.06.2004 9:57:00

    Oak. . Not necessarily that it was exactly at 3am. . . Let landscape night city not take the trouble

    17.06.2004 10:42:00
    Just
    usually at night I sleep
    strange customs. Here on the forum all just crazy about how the unit to record at night in the dark. Shpienov INTO whether or paparazzi. Sleep off, probably during the day at work.

    17.06.2004 10:52:00

    I just signed up yet, not yet settled down

    17.06.2004 11:14:00

    with Pentax trouble - puts the shutter 1/4, and though you burst.
    1/4 Exposure is limited in all modes except for the night.
    Indoors under incandescent light, portrait mode (- portrait). No Flash Pentax pleasantly surprised correct white balance
    A BB was "auto" or "incandescent lamp"?

    17.06.2004 11:17:00
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    Shutter speed is limited to 1.4 in all modes except for the night.

    plЁho!

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    A BB was "auto" or "incandescent lamp"?

    "Auto" in the matter.

    17.06.2004 11:36:00

    Why plёho something? no one bothers to take the day in night landscape / portrait exactly the same result c usual portrait / landscape (on 33wr).

    17.06.2004 11:49:00
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    plёho And what else? no one bothers to take the day in night landscape / portrait

    Plёho when limit the ability of the device without an objective reason. In my Panas was not like this.

    17.06.2004 12:32:00

    limit the ability of the device without objective reasons
    objective reasons for the manufacturer are complaints very drunk, with trembling hands, users on the image blurring when shooting in the machine at slow shutter speeds. And she needs it?

    17.06.2004 13:43:00
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    objective reasons for the manufacturer are complaints very drunk, with trembling hands, users on the image blurring when shooting in the machine at slow shutter speeds. And she needs it?

    This is the reason for Flame

    general and 1/4 ogogo as lubricated when you shoot moving objects.

    17.06.2004 17:41:00

    Unfortunately, this is a sad reality. Here in different branches full post type, so yesterday bought the camera, made of 500 pictures on a drinking-spree-disco, well, everything blurred. And then he concluded: unit - marriage or full city. . Urgently prisovetuet other.
    And the pictures in boom-boom and no one does not want to move gyrus. Hoped to him for 400 bucks more and brains to the unit will make. That's from such and protected.

    18.06.2004 0:35:00
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    And the pictures in boom-boom and no one does not want to move gyrus. Hoped to him for 400 bucks more and brains to the unit will make. That's from such and protected.

    Well, for these you just have to do two modes: "dark" (without the possibility of forced flash off) and "light" (everything else). And let them take off. . . eeh. . .

    PS Night shot while never bothered to do. And here's rain has gone.

    18.06.2004 1:37:00

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    And the rain that's gone.
    Duc theme is called -. . . Weatherproof CD.
    Or something I do not understand?


    And in St. Petersburg White Nights - ISO 400 + 1/22 very good at it. Well what about same night shots can we talk?

    18.06.2004 9:33:00

    . . . Weatherproof CD.

    Unfortunately, the photographer nor a moisture or compact is not

    18.06.2004 9:52:00
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    Unfortunately, the photographer nor a moisture or compact is not

    PS Today a letter from the service center I legally allowed to tear off stickers with the camera. And it has long been itching

     

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